Chaos route Haem ending

[dragonbetg22]

I understand that there is a harem ending in the chaos route, but I don't know what the conditions are to unlock it, I assume that it is to corrupt all the Dark lords and reach many points of "chaos" but is there something else I need or something?

[Crax]

You'll need to keep Luseli from becoming a Fallen Angel (by choosing "I want to make Anora happy" during the Alioth scenario), awaken but not alter the Dark Lords, and choose to sacrifice the people from each nation.

[dragonbetg22]

Originally posted by Crax:

You'll need to keep Luseli from becoming a Fallen Angel (by choosing "I want to make Anora happy" during the Alioth scenario), awaken but not alter the Dark Lords, and choose to sacrifice the people from each nation.

Are you sure? i thought i have to corrupt the angel too. BTW, how can i know when the darklors are going to be alter? how much corruption is for that?

[Slashley]

Awaken is 7, I think.

Altered means non-Awakened and then going for people. The dark lords kind of take issue with that.

[dragonbetg22]

Originally posted by Slashley:

Awaken is 7, I think.

Altered means non-Awakened and then going for people. The dark lords kind of take issue with that.

Do you know how much is to them to be "broken" i don't know if they have to be broken or just awaken to get the harem ending

[Gea Force]

There are two harem endings, both in the chaos route. At some point you'll be asked about a sacrifice on the final chapter
- If you sacrifice the dark lords (they'll get to affection -99) you'll get "A world painted Black"
- If you sacrifice the people and don't have fallen angel Luseli in your party you can select the scenario "These lovable women" before the final level. Then after beating the final boss you'll get to chose the harem ending. (It requires a combined affection of 50 between all the heroines)
- If you do have fallen angel Luseli and sacrifice the people you can chose to go to the true chaos route instead

[Slashley]

Originally posted by Gea Force:

- If you do have fallen angel Luseli and sacrifice the people you can chose to go to the true chaos route instead

I just did this, and didn't get the option to go for True Chaos.

Are there other requirements? For example, this specific run was made to unlock Altered versions (and therefore, only Sylvia and Karvia were Awakened which is kinda required), so maybe having everyone Awakened instead is required...?


EDIT: Oh hey, Crax said it in the very first post here. Yes, you're required to have everyone Awakened, and Fallen Luseli. I think what hasn't been said in this thread is that getting Fallen Luseli requires... 50 Chaos, I think?

[dragonbetg22]

Originally posted by Slashley:

Originally posted by Gea Force:

- If you do have fallen angel Luseli and sacrifice the people you can chose to go to the true chaos route instead

I just did this, and didn't get the option to go for True Chaos.

Are there other requirements? For example, this specific run was made to unlock Altered versions (and therefore, only Sylvia and Karvia were Awakened which is kinda required), so maybe having everyone Awakened instead is required...?


EDIT: Oh hey, Crax said it in the very first post here. Yes, you're required to have everyone Awakened, and Fallen Luseli. I think what hasn't been said in this thread is that getting Fallen Luseli requires... 50 Chaos, I think?

Ok so: you need to have the Sylvia, the 4 dark lords and Luseli corrupted, 50 chaos points is to have the option to get fallen Luseli and get the chaos harem ending, but i don't get one thing: I read that if you keep corrupting the heroines after the awekening they will become "broken", does that affect the harem ending?

[Slashley]

EDIT: Three weeks later, I've managed to get these tested and the following post is fairly wrong. Putting it in spoilers. Please check below for a probably slightly more correct version.

I'm not sure what broken means. Perhaps it refers to Altered? You get Altered by NOT Awakening them.

So, as far as I can tell, for True Chaos what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 50 Law+Chaos before the end of ch6(?) to get Alioth event, and choose "strength."
2. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
3. 50 Chaos by the... end of ch7(?) to get Fallen Luseli.
4. Not sacrificing the Dark Lords.

For the Harem end what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
2. Total of 50+ Affection spread across them.
3. Not Sacrificing the Dark Lords (Sac the people to be safe)
4. NOT meeting the requirements of True Chaos (for example, keeping normal Luseli)

Another harem end:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
2. Sacrifice the Dark Lords.

I can't confirm any of these yet, but based on this thread, that's... maybe correct?

[Pmac456]

I think you have to chose to sacrifice them to "break" them.

[dragonbetg22]

Originally posted by Slashley:

I'm not sure what broken means. Perhaps it refers to Altered? You get Altered by NOT Awakening them.

So, as far as I can tell, for True Chaos what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 50 Law+Chaos before the end of ch6(?) to get Alioth event, and choose "strength."
2. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
3. 50 Chaos by the... end of ch7(?) to get Fallen Luseli.
4. Not sacrificing the Dark Lords.

For the Harem end what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
2. Total of 50+ Affection spread across them.
3. Not Sacrificing the Dark Lords (Sac the people to be safe)
4. NOT meeting the requirements of True Chaos (for example, keeping normal Luseli)

Another harem end:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 7+ Corruption on the Dark Lords.
2. Sacrifice the Dark Lords.

I can't confirm any of these yet, but based on this thread, that's... maybe correct?

Ok, I will try this, thanks

Also, this is what i mean with "broken": "In the Chaos route, should you decide to "morph" them even further, you may eventually break their minds, destroying whatever was left of their personality and character, leaving them in a "Mindbroken" state." this is from the game's page and i still not get it

[Longes]

Originally posted by dragonbetg22:

Also, this is what i mean with "broken": "In the Chaos route, should you decide to "morph" them even further, you may eventually break their minds, destroying whatever was left of their personality and character, leaving them in a "Mindbroken" state." this is from the game's page and i still not get it

I think the "mindbroken" refers to the Altered versions you get if you do the Chaos route and sacrifice the Dark Lords. The follow-up events do "things" to them. Dark, unspeakable H things.

[Slashley]

So, I've finally done True Chaos and both harem ends. Here are what I believe what matters:

True Chaos:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 50 Law+Chaos before the end of ch6(?) to get Alioth event, and choose "strength."
2. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
3. 50 Chaos by the... end of ch7(?) to get Fallen Luseli.
4. Sacrifice the people (or use the .... option, which is the same).
5. Choose "These lovable women" before the final map.
(Did you want to get Karvia's title in this run? Too bad! You can't!)
6. Pick the new option after the final map. It's really hard (CURSE YOU Vanishing Glanzes!!) - don't overwrite your save as you can chicken out and go to the ending instead.

For the Harem end what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
2. NOT having Fallen Luseli (either don't do Alioth event or choose "happiness" for example).
3. Sacrifice the people.
4. Choose "These lovable women" before the final map.
In other words, it's the EXACT same thing as True Chaos... EXCEPT without Fallen Luseli.
(the game claimed that you need 50 Chaos and 40 total affection, but these should pose no issue - notice that if you have negative affection before an Awakening, the value will invert. In other words, a Tetra with -1 affection will turn into 1 affection when you break her (around 5 Elea training?) and Elea with -4 affection will turn into 4 affection once you break her (around 8 training?))

Another harem end:
(0. Chaos route)
1. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
2. Sacrifice the Dark Lords.
3. Pick all five of them. You want Tsubame in this run? Too bad, you can't have her.
I previously said that you get Altered version by NOT Awakening the Dark Lords and then sacrificing the people. While that was technically true, you should NEVER do that, do this instead! This is way, WAY better in so many ways!!

[dragonbetg22]

Originally posted by Slashley:

So, I've finally done True Chaos and both harem ends. Here are what I believe what matters:

True Chaos:
(0. Chaos route)
1. 50 Law+Chaos before the end of ch6(?) to get Alioth event, and choose "strength."
2. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
3. 50 Chaos by the... end of ch7(?) to get Fallen Luseli.
4. Sacrifice the people (or use the .... option, which is the same).
5. Choose "These lovable women" before the final map.
(Did you want to get Karvia's title in this run? Too bad! You can't!)
6. Pick the new option after the final map. It's really hard (CURSE YOU Vanishing Glanzes!!) - don't overwrite your save as you can chicken out and go to the ending instead.

For the Harem end what you need is:
(0. Chaos route)
1. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
2. NOT having Fallen Luseli (either don't do Alioth event or choose "happiness" for example).
3. Sacrifice the people.
4. Choose "These lovable women" before the final map.
In other words, it's the EXACT same thing as True Chaos... EXCEPT without Fallen Luseli.
(the game claimed that you need 50 Chaos and 40 total affection, but these should pose no issue - notice that if you have negative affection before an Awakening, the value will invert. In other words, a Tetra with -1 affection will turn into 1 affection when you break her (around 5 Elea training?) and Elea with -4 affection will turn into 4 affection once you break her (around 8 training?))

Another harem end:
(0. Chaos route)
1. All three Dark Lords Awakened.
2. Sacrifice the Dark Lords.
3. Pick all five of them. You want Tsubame in this run? Too bad, you can't have her.
I previously said that you get Altered version by NOT Awakening the Dark Lords and then sacrificing the people. While that was technically true, you should NEVER do that, do this instead! This is way, WAY better in so many ways!!

thanks a lot, now i know what to do xD