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Orisno Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:19pm
Plans to rework, nerf, or remove katana?
I've been enjoying the game mostly but recently I've just started leaving the match when I encounter the tiger character. The katana is not fun to play against IMO (to each their own) and it's not worth the trouble of tailoring my entire deck to beat it when I can't guarantee I'll go up against it. Are there plans to rework it so that it plays well with the rest of the arcade shooter gameplay? Right now it feels like it's from a completely different game.
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It's Deerlord! Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:21pm 
a lot of cards that are generically good are also good against sable. her tradeoff is that she's a little more reliable than myk but gets wrecked way harder by speed cards, shotguns, turrets, ammo reduction, invincibility cards, etc. you don't have to tailor your deck to counter her - just make smart use of the cards you have and do everything you can to keep distance.
six6six Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:21pm 
Its easy to counter, just ran away from it
Orisno Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by six6six:
Its easy to counter, just ran away from it
I do, but the block is too strong and I don't play this game to just run away the whole time.. It's just not fun to me. If you enjoy it, more power to you. The arcade shooter gameplay is what appeals to me. All of the weapons in the game fit that genre, as do all of the cards. The katana does not fit in there.
BbNaB Jun 6, 2023 @ 3:29pm 
Against katanas I've found bear traps, mines, a well placed Wall or turret can really help.
Also Poison/Vampire bullets will take effect even if blocked.
It's Deerlord! Jun 6, 2023 @ 3:58pm 
another good thing to do is to just hop in a bot game and try to navigate around the map running backwards, jumping around to find cheeky spots where you can get a vertical advantage and force sable to guess where you're gonna go, etc. it's just one of those games where good map knowledge really pays off.
준영 JUNEYOUNG Jun 6, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
Katana is a weak weapon. Just use machine guns like Brasshopper or FK-82 to destroy the block.
Holo Jun 6, 2023 @ 6:02pm 
Bombs, traps, automatic weapons all counter katana easily. Especially shotgun, it's just a direct counter since it can out-DPS the katana and breaks its block basically instantly. Once the katana blocks 10 shots, the user is forced to "reload" the katana for a couple of seconds which makes them super vulnerable too.

The weapon seems OP at first but the longer you play the more you realise how weak it actually is in most situations :/
Last edited by Holo; Jun 6, 2023 @ 6:06pm
Azor Jun 6, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by Orisno:
Originally posted by six6six:
Its easy to counter, just ran away from it
I do, but the block is too strong and I don't play this game to just run away the whole time.. It's just not fun to me. If you enjoy it, more power to you. The arcade shooter gameplay is what appeals to me. All of the weapons in the game fit that genre, as do all of the cards. The katana does not fit in there.
I agree completely
it has to be balanced and fun. if it can't be both, then it should go
edU.Verz [Brainwash Gang]  [developer] Jun 7, 2023 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Azor:
Originally posted by Orisno:
I do, but the block is too strong and I don't play this game to just run away the whole time.. It's just not fun to me. If you enjoy it, more power to you. The arcade shooter gameplay is what appeals to me. All of the weapons in the game fit that genre, as do all of the cards. The katana does not fit in there.
I agree completely
it has to be balanced and fun. if it can't be both, then it should go
We are going to push a patch with some balancing for the weapons pretty soon.
Breizhpanda Jun 7, 2023 @ 9:05am 
Katana is great actually, maybe just need to reduce blocking from 10 to 8 or something but not OP at all. You just need to learn to play vs a katana player :)
six6six Jun 7, 2023 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Orisno:
Originally posted by six6six:
Its easy to counter, just ran away from it
I do, but the block is too strong and I don't play this game to just run away the whole time.. It's just not fun to me. If you enjoy it, more power to you. The arcade shooter gameplay is what appeals to me. All of the weapons in the game fit that genre, as do all of the cards. The katana does not fit in there.
You can only block 10 hits with katana, it aint much, i just counter katana abusers by running away, chuggin a bomb on to them and shooting the bomb and it insta kills them :_D
six6six Jun 7, 2023 @ 9:09am 
Only gun that needs balancing i see is the shotgun, massive dmg close range
Lore? Jun 7, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
Sable auto-loses to any speed changing card (speed up for you slowdown for her), a lot of debuffs like disabling jump, any gun that isn't the Boira (both default and gold), Sniper, or Revolver, and it's also really hard for her to play around a number of strong burst options like the Moltov, Poison Grenade, Bomb, Sticky Bomb, or Land Mine.

Katana can only block 10 bullets and has the longest reload in the game, not to mention that it just generally really doesn't do much damage and can't headshot (and also has some really weird hitreg at times.)
WildFire Jun 8, 2023 @ 11:21am 
I have to agree here, the katana and the tiger are a little too op. Especially encountering 2 people running katana and the tiger. I also just rather leave the game than struggling against that.
kitdubwhy Jun 8, 2023 @ 4:00pm 
cope
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Date Posted: Jun 6, 2023 @ 1:19pm
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