Bullet Sponges

[Cent]

I had no idea someone wanted to make a game with even more bullet sponge than tarkov, but here it is

Better yet, whoever made this thought Rogues were good AI.

[Huntard]

it's so random

sometime i oneshot and after for the same enemy type i need like 5 bullets of 7,62 with mozin to die and AI with the same type of gun can one shot me when i am in big armor

[Dragoonseal]

It's armor class vs bullet penetration. If they have decent armor and you're using a low pen caliber they'll potentially soak up a ton of rounds before some are lucky enough to get through. Or potentially once you zero out their armor durability.

It works in reverse too, get some higher class armor and you'll notice a lot of pistol, SMG, and shotgun pellets totally bounce off you doing zero damage and zero bleeds.

It's hard to tell who is armored or not at a glance, but generally Bandits, Loners, scientists, and critters have low armor while Bosses, Boss Guards, Hunters, Crimson, and Green Army Soldiers are well armored.

[=M$= Oroberus]

If it's a bullet sponger, you're using the wrong ammo/calibre. I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually trying to shoot an amored enemy with a bullet that has -20% Pen / + 7% Acc / - 30% Dmg

PLEASE start paying attention to game mechanics and tooltips.

[Recluse Ronin]

Yup, perfect example is Lazar in the town. He rocks the highest rpm gun w high Armor Pen rounds, so he'll shred people with level 5 armor in a flash. It's all bullet tactics when dealing w enemies. I'll switch to HP rounds for wolves and boars, and save the AP rounds for hunters and bandits

[Meattshield]

Learn your ammo types.

Honestly the only ones you really need are whatever the Full metal jacket is and AP (black tip).

With a long barrel AKM (7.62x39) and AP you can double tap armored hunters in the mall, and kibba only takes 4-5 rounds.

[[Lizard Wizard]]

I think most of the other people in this thread are right.

It's important to take into account enemy armor vs your ammunition.

[Commander Hitman2b]

armor dude take 2 bullet to kill same for some bandit tho for some reason the hit scan don't work with a supressor

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by Cent:

I had no idea someone wanted to make a game with even more bullet sponge than tarkov, but here it is

Better yet, whoever made this thought Rogues were good AI.

This game doesn't have bullet sponges.
Enemies die as fast as they do in say, Stalker Gamma.

If you think there are bullet sponges, that falls squarely under skill issue.

[0715]

Originally posted by Commander Hitman2b:

armor dude take 2 bullet to kill same for some bandit tho for some reason the hit scan don't work with a supressor

Suppressors lower bullet speed quite a bit. I'm not surprised.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by 0715:

Originally posted by Commander Hitman2b:

armor dude take 2 bullet to kill same for some bandit tho for some reason the hit scan don't work with a supressor

Suppressors lower bullet speed quite a bit. I'm not surprised.

It shouldn't.

[Noob]

As everyone said it's all about pen, just like in tarkov. Kibba gets killed really easily with 7.62x39 bp rounds. I once tried to kill a soldier with normal mosin rounds and it took like 4 shots to kill him, while I only needed one with bandits.

[Lack of Stuff]

Originally posted by 0715:

Originally posted by Commander Hitman2b:

armor dude take 2 bullet to kill same for some bandit tho for some reason the hit scan don't work with a supressor

Suppressors lower bullet speed quite a bit. I'm not surprised.

Only a few very select suppressors actually reduce bullet speed. The majority would increase speed by a meaningless degree.

However, suppressors reducing dmg is a time honored mechanic in just about every game to balance out their benefits. Otherwise there wouldn't ever be a reason to equip anything else.

[Cent]

Lmao. I played Tarkov, I know what the ammo types are and how they work. The difference is that in Tarkov, you can leg meta people even if you are not running AP, and there are always headshots. You can get around the problem. In this game, there is NO equivalent, you just have to deal with the bullet sponge. Not even the early days of Tarkov (no face hitbox) was this bad. There's no counterplay strategy.

Lmfao at the idiots in here going 'you just arent using the right ammo'. No, you just aren't understanding the problem. If the mechanic doesn't translate over to a non-FPS, DONT TRY TO COPY THE MECHANIC IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[David]

If you're using the right ammo, try a different weapon. Everything drops in less than a second for me.

['Strict]

Originally posted by Cent:

Lmao. I played Tarkov, I know what the ammo types are and how they work. The difference is that in Tarkov, you can leg meta people even if you are not running AP, and there are always headshots. You can get around the problem. In this game, there is NO equivalent, you just have to deal with the bullet sponge. Not even the early days of Tarkov (no face hitbox) was this bad. There's no counterplay strategy.

Lmfao at the idiots in here going 'you just arent using the right ammo'. No, you just aren't understanding the problem. If the mechanic doesn't translate over to a non-FPS, DONT TRY TO COPY THE MECHANIC IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So...what weapon and ammo are you actually using then mate?
I use my sniper with FMJ and my assult rifle (forgot what it's called now) with AP/HP depending on what I have the most of and I have no problem killing most things very fast (except for some bosses that might take around 4 sniper or 6 AR bullets)