Thrive
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 5:17am
buying a nucleus
...results in my death every time. I just bought the game and am a n00b. Anyone out there willing to help me out to understand the game better? Three times I've died because of buying a nucleus
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Boost  [developer] May 27, 2023 @ 5:27am 
You should have your energy balance be very positive before you get a nucleus. Also consider which resources you need to have at the same time to have that energy balance.

If you want the easiest build to go for, then head to the surface and become a plant before getting the nucleus.
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by Boost:
You should have your energy balance be very positive before you get a nucleus. Also consider which resources you need to have at the same time to have that energy balance.

If you want the easiest build to go for, then head to the surface and become a plant before getting the nucleus.

So is going to the surface basically required to survive? Because I have yet to do that in any of my runs
Omnitroid  [developer] May 27, 2023 @ 8:40am 
Nah, going to the surface is only really necessary if you want to use photosynthesis to survive or prey on the abundance of cells that might arise.

In the volcanic vents (default start) you can survive off of hydrogen sulfide using the synthesizing proteins which turn it into glucose. In the mesopelagic you can easily live off of the cell chunks floating everywhere (marine snow) as long as you can engulf them.

There's quite a few other ways to survive as well.
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Omnitroid:
Nah, going to the surface is only really necessary if you want to use photosynthesis to survive or prey on the abundance of cells that might arise.

In the volcanic vents (default start) you can survive off of hydrogen sulfide using the synthesizing proteins which turn it into glucose. In the mesopelagic you can easily live off of the cell chunks floating everywhere (marine snow) as long as you can engulf them.

There's quite a few other ways to survive as well.

There's never enough hydrogen sulfide for me to survive on. How fast should we be expanding our cells? Are we supposed to spend every dna point each time

Also, every time I buy something, all it does is decrease my population outcome. I've tried every single thing available to buy, and nothing will boost the population. If nothing boosts the population then what am I supposed to buy?
Last edited by Forcedge; May 27, 2023 @ 9:23am
Boost  [developer] May 27, 2023 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by Forcedge:
Are we supposed to spend every dna point each time

Also, every time I buy something, all it does is decrease my population outcome. I've tried every single thing available to buy, and nothing will boost the population. If nothing boosts the population then what am I supposed to buy?

Sometimes you aren't really supposed to buy everything you can afford. Quite often moderation is better than adding all of the organelles you can. One of the tutorial messages was added specifically to tell players that they should maybe consider staying small / focusing on one type of energy source rather than placing as many different organelles as possible.
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Boost:
Originally posted by Forcedge:
Are we supposed to spend every dna point each time

Also, every time I buy something, all it does is decrease my population outcome. I've tried every single thing available to buy, and nothing will boost the population. If nothing boosts the population then what am I supposed to buy?

Sometimes you aren't really supposed to buy everything you can afford. Quite often moderation is better than adding all of the organelles you can. One of the tutorial messages was added specifically to tell players that they should maybe consider staying small / focusing on one type of energy source rather than placing as many different organelles as possible.

But when I follow that advice, other species are growing and evolving rapidly while I am still a single cell. Does the AI cheat then?
Boost  [developer] May 27, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Even if you don't make changes in the editor, time still passes so AI species evolve like normal.
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Boost:
Even if you don't make changes in the editor, time still passes so AI species evolve like normal.

I ended up just buying mass amounts of Iron--->ATP structures and just sat next to an iron stone until i won the game.
Forcedge May 27, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Is there a way to upgrade your "weapons"? Like, getting bigger spikes than other species? Or is it just about the number of spikes you get that affect the damage
joe.alton1 May 30, 2023 @ 8:51pm 
Originally posted by Forcedge:
Is there a way to upgrade your "weapons"? Like, getting bigger spikes than other species? Or is it just about the number of spikes you get that affect the damage
No, but you can make Cilia pull in others as an upgrade.
The only problem I have with this type of cilia is that it still moves you; slows me down a ton.
daggaz Jun 12, 2023 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Forcedge:
I ended up just buying mass amounts of Iron--->ATP structures and just sat next to an iron stone until i won the game.

This really just kills it for me. :(
Mason Jun 12, 2023 @ 10:04am 
alright pro tip here: rust cells are your friends, but other species cells are not. so you gotta get big, big enough to eat small iron rocks and that's your atp taken care of. get lysozomes and you can digest other cells faster. you will now eat other cells, they should be rust cells because of evo, thus more potential rust, thus more atp. then you need to be fast to keep up with competing against the other cells. it's very important that you balance this all out to a point where it's the most efficient. combat other cells with spikes, toxins, slime etc. multicellular it out and then you can design the perfect multicellular organism with components for X Y and Z. then they evolve and compete against you.
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