Korean lever ( Need help please)

[tk_gintoki]

I just bought korean lever Crown 309FJ helpme and Its my first KL experience. I have issues hitting diagonals ( db and df)
Any tips please ?

[Spooky7.62]

What your grommet tension?

Also are you playing a Mishima?

[Insomniak]

I also had problems hitting diagonals at first. I'd suggest to experiment with the actuators and grommets. I played on violet 30A medium tension for a few months and noticed how tiresome it got playing mishimas and doing kbd, so I bought the white/clear 25A grommet and it feels a lot better for me.

But most importantly is playing/practicing of course. It felt very odd going from jp stick to korean at first cause the diagonals really are tighter, in my experience.

https://focusattack.com/crown-cwl-309-mj-new-helpme-kms-st30-joystick/ you can read the description here for more info.

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

What your grommet tension?

Also are you playing a Mishima?

35

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

What your grommet tension?

Also are you playing a Mishima?

I am playing Bryan mostly but I play Mishima too

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Insomniak:

I also had problems hitting diagonals at first. I'd suggest to experiment with the actuators and grommets. I played on violet 30A medium tension for a few months and noticed how tiresome it got playing mishimas and doing kbd, so I bought the white/clear 25A grommet and it feels a lot better for me.

But most importantly is playing/practicing of course. It felt very odd going from jp stick to korean at first cause the diagonals really are tighter, in my experience.

https://focusattack.com/crown-cwl-309-mj-new-helpme-kms-st30-joystick/ you can read the description here for more info.

Yeah its very hard. JP stick was very smoothly and faster.
I always get d or b instead of db , Its annoying somehow. but I will keep practicing ofc

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Insomniak:

I also had problems hitting diagonals at first. I'd suggest to experiment with the actuators and grommets. I played on violet 30A medium tension for a few months and noticed how tiresome it got playing mishimas and doing kbd, so I bought the white/clear 25A grommet and it feels a lot better for me.

But most importantly is playing/practicing of course. It felt very odd going from jp stick to korean at first cause the diagonals really are tighter, in my experience.

https://focusattack.com/crown-cwl-309-mj-new-helpme-kms-st30-joystick/ you can read the description here for more info.

Thank you very much I will check the link

[pogliacci]

I've also been thinking about switching to korean levers, but I already struggle with diagonals with a japanese one, damn it.

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

Originally posted by Insomniak:

I also had problems hitting diagonals at first. I'd suggest to experiment with the actuators and grommets. I played on violet 30A medium tension for a few months and noticed how tiresome it got playing mishimas and doing kbd, so I bought the white/clear 25A grommet and it feels a lot better for me.

But most importantly is playing/practicing of course. It felt very odd going from jp stick to korean at first cause the diagonals really are tighter, in my experience.

https://focusattack.com/crown-cwl-309-mj-new-helpme-kms-st30-joystick/ you can read the description here for more info.

Thank you very much I will check the link :er_wave:

you did the exact opposite as me, I came from hitbox to korean lever and korean lever helped my japanese lever performance, I curreently run a 25a, but I have a 30,35,40,45 and a 55 (havent used the 55 yet).

anyway df and backs are easy after practice for a while, but one thing ive noticed is that theirs a df and db input very close to the down input.

[-Solin- | xpearlphoenix]

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

What your grommet tension?

Also are you playing a Mishima?

35

I think u should try 20 or 25, 35 is usually too much unless u are hulk.

[Banchan]

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

I just bought korean lever Crown 309FJ helpme and Its my first KL experience. I have issues hitting diagonals ( db and df)
Any tips please ?

Traditional Korean levers like the 309 have small diagonals due to their circle gate. You can try installing a larger actuator to increase the size of diagonals but that will also decrease the size of neutral, which is generally not good for Tekken.

Changing grommet strength will not affect diagonals; they will affect return to neutral speed and the amount of physical effort required for input. Heavier grommets will result in faster return to neutral but may increase fatigue. 30 Shore A is generally the lightest you will want to use for Tekken but it's very much a matter of personal preference.

The main thing is just to practice and get used to the smaller diagonals of a traditional Korean lever.

If you find it is still too difficult to hit diagonals, some non-traditional Korean levers offer other gates. Unfortunately, these are more expensive models like the Knee Lever Neo, Golden Lever, and Sanjuks.

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

Thank you very much I will check the link :er_wave:

you did the exact opposite as me, I came from hitbox to korean lever and korean lever helped my japanese lever performance, I curreently run a 25a, but I have a 30,35,40,45 and a 55 (havent used the 55 yet).

anyway df and backs are easy after practice for a while, but one thing ive noticed is that theirs a df and db input very close to the down input.

Yeah I agree with the inputs feeling too close to each other at first. I got hit by so many lows, even slow ones, cause I got d instead of db :D

Do you play both levers regularly?

I feel like KL got a superior built, since there are fewer parts that can fail and you don't need to clean and grease it up to insure longevity. I had quite a few problems with jp levers over 2 years of use.

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by Banchan:

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

I just bought korean lever Crown 309FJ helpme and Its my first KL experience. I have issues hitting diagonals ( db and df)
Any tips please ?

Traditional Korean levers like the 309 have small diagonals due to their circle gate. You can try installing a larger actuator to increase the size of diagonals but that will also decrease the size of neutral, which is generally not good for Tekken.

Changing grommet strength will not affect diagonals; they will affect return to neutral speed and the amount of physical effort required for input. Heavier grommets will result in faster return to neutral but may increase fatigue. 30 Shore A is generally the lightest you will want to use for Tekken but it's very much a matter of personal preference.

The main thing is just to practice and get used to the smaller diagonals of a traditional Korean lever.

If you find it is still too difficult to hit diagonals, some non-traditional Korean levers offer other gates. Unfortunately, these are more expensive models like the Knee Lever Neo, Golden Lever, and Sanjuks.

Very good summary!

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by Insomniak:

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

you did the exact opposite as me, I came from hitbox to korean lever and korean lever helped my japanese lever performance, I curreently run a 25a, but I have a 30,35,40,45 and a 55 (havent used the 55 yet).

anyway df and backs are easy after practice for a while, but one thing ive noticed is that theirs a df and db input very close to the down input.

Yeah I agree with the inputs feeling too close to each other at first. I got hit by so many lows, even slow ones, cause I got d instead of db :D

Do you play both levers regularly?

I feel like KL got a superior built, since there are fewer parts that can fail and you don't need to clean and grease it up to insure longevity. I had quite a few problems with jp levers over 2 years of use.

yea been using lever for almost 2 months feels normal

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Banchan:

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

I just bought korean lever Crown 309FJ helpme and Its my first KL experience. I have issues hitting diagonals ( db and df)
Any tips please ?

Traditional Korean levers like the 309 have small diagonals due to their circle gate. You can try installing a larger actuator to increase the size of diagonals but that will also decrease the size of neutral, which is generally not good for Tekken.

Changing grommet strength will not affect diagonals; they will affect return to neutral speed and the amount of physical effort required for input. Heavier grommets will result in faster return to neutral but may increase fatigue. 30 Shore A is generally the lightest you will want to use for Tekken but it's very much a matter of personal preference.

The main thing is just to practice and get used to the smaller diagonals of a traditional Korean lever.

If you find it is still too difficult to hit diagonals, some non-traditional Korean levers offer other gates. Unfortunately, these are more expensive models like the Knee Lever Neo, Golden Lever, and Sanjuks.

Thank you very much , very helpful

[tk_gintoki]

Originally posted by Spooky7.62:

Originally posted by tk_gintoki:

Thank you very much I will check the link

you did the exact opposite as me, I came from hitbox to korean lever and korean lever helped my japanese lever performance, I curreently run a 25a, but I have a 30,35,40,45 and a 55 (havent used the 55 yet).

anyway df and backs are easy after practice for a while, but one thing ive noticed is that theirs a df and db input very close to the down input.

Thank you very much ,
interesting i will try to be closer to down input to get df and db inputs