Let's Talk: Not Your Average Tekken 8 Tier List (Anakin's list)

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

So, I've stumbled across Anakin's video of a tier list, and as in the fashion you guys know me of, gotta make a thread about it, so here we are.

As per always, reasoning in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaNE4R-RQVY

Here's the tier list, and this time, it's ordered from left to right, and it's in difficulty order, easiest on the left and difficulty increases the more right we go:

- Top 5 (good and super easy): Dragunov, Azucena, Victor, Feng, King

- Easy: Law, Jun, Paul, Claudio, Jin, Lili, Leo, Jack, Kuma, Panda, Asuka

- Not That Easy: Reina, Shaheen, Lars, Alisa, Hwoarang

- Pretty Hard: Kazuya, Raven, Leroy, Nina, Lee, Devil Jin, Bryan, Xiaoyu

- Bottom 3 (super difficult - works too hard): Steve, Zafina, Yoshimitsu

Finally a list where Xiaoyu gets some much deserved respect, and Anakin was even considering putting her in bottom 5, just a FYI. Well, technically, she is bottom 5 in the list, but in the beginning the final tier was "Bottom 5" not "Bottom 3"

I'm also curious that since some people were complaining in the previous threads that the lists were made by some random YouTuber that's just Fujin rank, what will the complaints be this time considering the tier list is made by an actual pro and it's not made 5 minutes after the game's release as some other complaints were crying.

Well, you know the deal by now, discuss.

[Tzenka]

It's not because a charcater is harder to play that it's not an annoying obnoxious character with too much strenghts.
"Easy to use" is only about the time you need to practice with it or how to understand it.
Of course Xiaoyu is "pretty hard" because of her stance that also makes her OP and obnoxious.

[KrossKounter]

This is about mastering characters. Xiaoyu ranks worse here because she takes time to learn.

No one denied that xiaoyu has a learning curve, what people are annoyed about is that xiaoyu players never know any other char besides their own and the character being too strong currently.
When you find the 50th tekken god ling in a row who can't punish the most basic moves or break a single throw, you will finally understand what people don't like about this character.

It seems you interpreted this as a normal tierlist which is wrong. It doesn't speak about how strong or good a character is. It's more about how long it takes to get results with a character.

[kiteless 凧無し]

anything for clicks

and people lap it up

[KrossKounter]

Shouldn't this list make you happy p-kun?

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Munchy Punchy:

It seems you interpreted this as a normal tierlist which is wrong. It doesn't speak about how strong or good a character is. It's more about how long it takes to get results with a character.

I didn't interpret it wrong.

I've been watching a lot of tier lists at work because those videos tend to be quite long and it helps pass the time, and trust me, there's waaaaay too many people saying how she's easy to play and all that.

A lot of people actually disregard her learning curve, hence why I said that she finally gets some respect.

[Pelikan]

I agree with Anakin's list, seems quite accurate to me. Only thing is I would place Law a bit higher in terms of execution even if he is easier than T7 ( due to his combo finisher requiring a tight input and him needing smart poking and movement to do well).

[KrossKounter]

I don't disregard her learning curve, yet I've never seen a "ling specialist" who's I consider a good tekken player. At least not in EU or US.
I recognize the work they put into their char, but everyone else puts similar work into their chars and on top of that puts tons of work into learning matchups and fundamental tekken.
That's something ling specialists do not have to do at all.
And I think getting good at high level tekken is neccesary with every single char... Everyone except one.

And you can't change my mind since I've already played every single top ranked Ling player in EU.
The cream of the crop so to speak. They're difficult to beat only because ling is difficult to beat, not because they're good.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Pelikan:

I agree with Anakin's list, seems quite accurate to me. Only thing is I would place Law a bit higher in terms of execution even if he is easier than T7.

I mean, he's the 6th easiest character on the list, don't think you can put him higher without changing the top 5.

[Pelikan]

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

I mean, he's the 6th easiest character on the list, don't think you can put him higher without changing the top 5.

I meant I would put him in the not so easy category, because IMHO, he is harder to use than Hwoarang for instance.

[ShadowSplit]

Not sure is it me or the internet, but Dragunov seems kinda bugged. I notice some of my lows, even highs go through him.

The list might be the most accurate one so far.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Pelikan:

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

I mean, he's the 6th easiest character on the list, don't think you can put him higher without changing the top 5.

I meant I would put him in the not so easy category, because IMHO, he is harder to use than Hwoarang for instance.

Ah, that, misread it, sorry, my bad there.

I think the reason why he's put where he is because Law is easier to pick up than say Hwoarang. Sure, you can d3,4 with Hwoarang and have some success, but overall, you need to learn way more strings and setups with him than with Law.

Also let's not forget Law has a launching throw and the panic d2,3 ch launcher, which is extremely effective in lower ranks where everyone wants to mash.

[Ghastper]

As a Devil Jin enjoyer I feel vindicated

[Cheez3™]

I dont really care about the opinions of a youtuber in general.

[KrossKounter]

Originally posted by Cheez3:

I dont really care about the opinions of a youtuber in general.

He's a professional player who won many many titles. He's not someone like TMM. So generally I trust him and I think his list is pretty alright.
But people misinterpret the crap out of this list and fail to understand that difficulty is far more nuanced than just "this char easy and this char hard".

[T1g3r]

I like Anakin's approach and reasoning, his content reflects his Tekken knowledge or skills, unlike other content creators' tierlists which are more often than not inconsistent and BS