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Who hates tekken difficulty !
https://youtu.be/EjZi3xp4p4o

*edit snip*

*sigh

look..

Anyone who gates the community from sharing & learning hates the Tekken experience intended by the dev's long long long ago and the future to come.

Anyone who hates the community learning from any good resource, or and good advice be it from the wandering drunk, :likeasmith:

or FGC master.

Or a simple 13 year old with well spoken advice who's never played Tekken before. :dos2teddy:

Help to the community is help ..
even if it trumps, or competes,
or celebrates.. :story:
Hope that Helps :TECsmile:
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C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫 (Banned) May 20 @ 12:12pm 
Do you know the old saying of "those who can't do, teach"?

Yea, that's the video.

As the comments in the vid already pointed out, he pretty much took PhiDX's vid and barely changed it. It's just plagiarism.
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:


Do you know the old saying of "those who can't do, teach"?

Yea, that's the video.

As the comments in the vid already pointed out, he pretty much took PhiDX's vid and barely changed it. It's just plagiarism.

This video is heavily inspired by ‪@PhiDX‬ reaction guide.
After watching his guide, I knew I had to try these drills myself, but added my own spin on it! Check out his original video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N2MtFtRjOY&t=848s
He's the real Tekken Education G! 💯🔥

Anything else...?
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 12:54pm
I did read the description, except that by "heavily inspired" he means a 1 to 1, with the only twist being that instead of Phi's "being as cracked as the koreans" he says "you get ultra instinct".

Hell, that whole "level 5" is a 1 to 1 of Phi's vid, same exact moves used. Yea even the level 1 is the same, Phi says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que, the guy says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que.
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
I did read the description, except that by "heavily inspired" he means a 1 to 1, with the only twist being that instead of Phi's "being as cracked as the koreans" he says "you get ultra instinct".

Hell, that whole "level 5" is a 1 to 1 of Phi's vid, same exact moves used. Yea even the level 1 is the same, Phi says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que, the guy says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que.

And not everyone wants to watch a 24 Minute spiel when they want to get to the point..

Anything else?
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 12:56pm
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
I did read the description, except that by "heavily inspired" he means a 1 to 1, with the only twist being that instead of Phi's "being as cracked as the koreans" he says "you get ultra instinct".

Hell, that whole "level 5" is a 1 to 1 of Phi's vid, same exact moves used. Yea even the level 1 is the same, Phi says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que, the guy says to use b1 because it uses the same sound que.

And not everyone wants to watch a 24 Minute spiel when they want to get to the point..

Anything else?

Ah, changing the subject are we?

Well, don't worry, I came prepared. Phi's vid has sections so you can just watch exactly what you need AND most importantly, if you look at the side, you'll see that Phi has all the moves used in that "level", so you don't even need to watch his video, you just go to the section, pause the vid, grab the moves from Phi's list and done.

So if people just want to jump straight to the big things, you don't even need to watch the video, so Phi's vid is still better.
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:

And not everyone wants to watch a 24 Minute spiel when they want to get to the point..

Anything else?

Ah, changing the subject are we?

Well, don't worry, I came prepared. Phi's vid has sections so you can just watch exactly what you need AND most importantly, if you look at the side, you'll see that Phi has all the moves used in that "level", so you don't even need to watch his video, you just go to the section, pause the vid, grab the moves from Phi's list and done.

So if people just want to jump straight to the big things, you don't even need to watch the video, so Phi's vid is still better.

Isn't the point being how not who tells..

The Azgardian
is crediting
PhiDX

The short window is more clickable, information in and out quick to the point digestible and trackable without pause and concise explanation with out dragging or having to explain 2 several types of players, Pros and casuals which
PhiDX is great at..

but the point is a casual focus step by step not grab formulation not everyone is a Formulaic learner you have visual learners you have visual, auditory, read/write, and kinesthetic.

Also
IS he wrong in spreading the same tutorial ?

So more of the same information from the community is evil when its not a higher rank?
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 12:55pm
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:

Ah, changing the subject are we?

Well, don't worry, I came prepared. Phi's vid has sections so you can just watch exactly what you need AND most importantly, if you look at the side, you'll see that Phi has all the moves used in that "level", so you don't even need to watch his video, you just go to the section, pause the vid, grab the moves from Phi's list and done.

So if people just want to jump straight to the big things, you don't even need to watch the video, so Phi's vid is still better.

Isn't the point being how not who tells..
He is crediting Phi
the short window is more clickable
IS he wrong in spreading the same tutorial

So more of the same information from the community is evil when its not a higher rank?

The problem isn't that he made a "similar" tutorial, but that he just outright copied it 1 for 1.

You could use a million things for "reaction". For example, why did he have to use Dragunov for the throw break one? He could've picked any character with a full throw game. "but he used Dragunov because he has a snake edge and that was meant to be practiced at the same time", ok, cool, why not Paul or King? Both have full throw game AND snake edges. Jin is also not the only character with strings that can be fuzzy guarded, so again, he could've picked another character for that, and most characters have a 20f low, hey, Kazuya works, his d/f1,d/f2 and d/f1,2 can be fuzzy guarded, and his d/b4 is 20f, he also has d1+2 as a discount Jin d2.

You understand now?

It's not an issue that he made a similar video, the issue is that he went and copy pasted Phi's video.
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:

Isn't the point being how not who tells..
He is crediting Phi
the short window is more clickable
IS he wrong in spreading the same tutorial

So more of the same information from the community is evil when its not a higher rank?

The problem isn't that he made a "similar" tutorial, but that he just outright copied it 1 for 1.

You could use a million things for "reaction". For example, why did he have to use Dragunov for the throw break one? He could've picked any character with a full throw game. "but he used Dragunov because he has a snake edge and that was meant to be practiced at the same time", ok, cool, why not Paul or King? Both have full throw game AND snake edges. Jin is also not the only character with strings that can be fuzzy guarded, so again, he could've picked another character for that, and most characters have a 20f low, hey, Kazuya works, his d/f1,d/f2 and d/f1,2 can be fuzzy guarded, and his d/b4 is 20f, he also has d1+2 as a discount Jin d2.

You understand now?

It's not an issue that he made a similar video, the issue is that he went and copy pasted Phi's video.

I am pretty sure he explained it by Speed of reaction ease of view..

I don't see Reina like in Phidx's vid..

So any information to the community replayed can be considered theft or plagiarism?
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 12:48pm
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:

The problem isn't that he made a "similar" tutorial, but that he just outright copied it 1 for 1.

You could use a million things for "reaction". For example, why did he have to use Dragunov for the throw break one? He could've picked any character with a full throw game. "but he used Dragunov because he has a snake edge and that was meant to be practiced at the same time", ok, cool, why not Paul or King? Both have full throw game AND snake edges. Jin is also not the only character with strings that can be fuzzy guarded, so again, he could've picked another character for that, and most characters have a 20f low, hey, Kazuya works, his d/f1,d/f2 and d/f1,2 can be fuzzy guarded, and his d/b4 is 20f, he also has d1+2 as a discount Jin d2.

You understand now?

It's not an issue that he made a similar video, the issue is that he went and copy pasted Phi's video.

I am pretty sure he explained it by Speed of reaction ease of view..

That's not the point....

Here's the thing, most of that stuff is to teach you how to lab and react to character specific things. Labbing Bryan's snake edge won't make it easier to react to Alisa or Anna' snake edges for example, you need to lab those specifically, same with Jin, learning to fuzzy guard his d/f1 string extensions won't make it so you can suddenly fuzzy guard Kazuya's d/f1 string extensions, etc etc.

So from a tutorial point of view, he could've used any characters. Only generic thing is the throw breaks. Yes, you can make the argument that "if you practice these, it will make learning to deal with other character's stuff easier", but by the same logic, why did it have to be the exact same things Phi did? He could've used any other. Want something that's fast for a duck launch? Lili 2,4.

Hell, if he wanted something that's not copy pasting another guy's video, he could've done something similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHy-z9geHYA

That's a pretty good reaction training video, even tho it's for Shaheen and at full difficulty.
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:

I am pretty sure he explained it by Speed of reaction ease of view..

That's not the point....

Here's the thing, most of that stuff is to teach you how to lab and react to character specific things. Labbing Bryan's snake edge won't make it easier to react to Alisa or Anna' snake edges for example,
you need to lab those specifically, same with Jin, learning to fuzzy guard his d/f1 string extensions won't make it so you can suddenly fuzzy guard Kazuya's d/f1 string extensions, etc etc.

So from a tutorial point of view, he could've used any characters. Only generic thing is the throw breaks. Yes, you can make the argument that "if you practice these, it will make learning to deal with other character's stuff easier", but by the same logic, why did it have to be the exact same things Phi did? He could've used any other. Want something that's fast for a duck launch? Lili 2,4.

Hell, if he wanted something that's not copy pasting another guy's video, he could've done something similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHy-z9geHYA

That's a pretty good reaction training video, even tho it's for Shaheen and at full difficulty.

So could PhiDX
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 12:58pm
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
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I don't see Reina like in Phidx's vid..

Teacher: "You copied Dave's test, everything's identical"
Sown: "No it's not, I don't see his name on the paper"
Last edited by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫; May 20 @ 1:11pm
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:

That's not the point....

Here's the thing, most of that stuff is to teach you how to lab and react to character specific things. Labbing Bryan's snake edge won't make it easier to react to Alisa or Anna' snake edges for example,
you need to lab those specifically, same with Jin, learning to fuzzy guard his d/f1 string extensions won't make it so you can suddenly fuzzy guard Kazuya's d/f1 string extensions, etc etc.

So from a tutorial point of view, he could've used any characters. Only generic thing is the throw breaks. Yes, you can make the argument that "if you practice these, it will make learning to deal with other character's stuff easier", but by the same logic, why did it have to be the exact same things Phi did? He could've used any other. Want something that's fast for a duck launch? Lili 2,4.

Hell, if he wanted something that's not copy pasting another guy's video, he could've done something similar to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHy-z9geHYA

That's a pretty good reaction training video, even tho it's for Shaheen and at full difficulty.

So could Phidx

What's your point? Phi made the first video, the guy copy pasted it, why should Phi have change stuff, instead of the guy that's claiming he didn't plagiarize the vid?
Originally posted by C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫:
Originally posted by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr:
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I don't see Reina like in Phidx's vid..

TeacherL "You copied Dave's test, everything's identical"
Sown: "No it's not, I don't see his name on the paper"

Funny how this is a fighting community not a classroom ..


the point of a tutorial is to inform not rule out who said what

we dont step on each other because of who said what first

he was showing the drills using his character, he put in the work that was laid out by PhiDX


but to you this is wrong and evil despite he credited him in the more tab as expected.

Creative use rights isn't plagiarism not that that is what was done... as Mentioned he used Reina not who PhiDX Used.

So a level 4 player telling people how to play from the mouth of a high rank is wrong?



Thank you for explaining
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 1:04pm
Us not All

Us mentality

Not community mentality

Is what is wrong with fighting games.
Last edited by S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr; May 20 @ 1:07pm
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