is steve strong or weak?

[kryeed]

probably somewhere in the middle but i'd like to ask. Both steve mains and people fighting them as their own mains. I was told a good chunk of his kit was toned down from T7 but i haven't messed with the game much. Since i play em the most, i only tend to see the weaknesses you know?

[Tarmok]

He is annoying

[kryeed]

Originally posted by Tarmok:

He is annoying

like how you're not sure where the gaps in the attack are or as a person?

[Tarmok]

Annoying to face

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Mid?

[kryeed]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Mid?

i figured he was somewhere in the middle of the pack. Its pretty earlyu to get a feel for tiers and whatnot. I know his biggest weakness for me is a lack of low moves to really mess with an opponent.

[JyoKun]

He is good, not op but you can make nice things in battle with him.

[Castyles]

A tier, at worst and my most hated matchup. Even Dragunov, Victor, Azucena, Reina and Hwoarang players know when to stop mashing.

[$OULJA $TRIFE]

Very good character, its almost impossible to have him be bad with the way tekken works now, hyper aggresive plus frame abuser characters will always shine

[kryeed]

good to know, though even if he were lower i doubt i'd drop em.

[son]

annoying

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Steve feels like a very honest character to me - relying on good defence and movement to get his launches (assuming you aren't just mashing into counterhits). My highest rated sparring partner mains him (we're both purple rank), and I feel like I learn so much by playing against him. I still lose more sets than I win against him, but I have gained a deep appreciation for him as a player and for the character itself.

I suspect that puts Steve in the "not super strong" tier when it comes to my level of play and below. Relentless (and mostly mindless) aggression is incredibly effective when people aren't competent at punishing, which means rushdown characters can get away with things they absolutely shouldn't. This doesn't mean his toolkit is weak, just that it's not especially exploitative of the weaknesses of intermediate/lower levels of play.

[Doktor Mandrake]

Not to try and derail but I have a question and didn't really want to make an entire thread

But are panda and kuma more feasible now? They've always been more like "joke" characters but I've always loved playing them non the less, but never as my mains and just wondered how they are on T8 and how viable they are

I'm guessing they're like considered low tier by the community?

[kryeed]

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake:

Not to try and derail but I have a question and didn't really want to make an entire thread

But are panda and kuma more feasible now? They've always been more like "joke" characters but I've always loved playing them non the less, but never as my mains and just wondered how they are on T8 and how viable they are

I'm guessing they're like considered low tier by the community?

i feel like their range can be insane but i haven't heard them being OP.

[Doktor Mandrake]

Originally posted by Kryeed:

Originally posted by Doktor Mandrake:

Not to try and derail but I have a question and didn't really want to make an entire thread

But are panda and kuma more feasible now? They've always been more like "joke" characters but I've always loved playing them non the less, but never as my mains and just wondered how they are on T8 and how viable they are

I'm guessing they're like considered low tier by the community?

i feel like their range can be insane but i haven't heard them being OP.

Ya I've not seen many people talk about them which makes me feel they're also either mid or maybe even low tier

I've never liked Steve personally ever since T4, I've hardly ever picked him but I've had friends in the past that have kicked my ass using him, I feel like it's the sort of fighter that can be good if you know how to use it, kind of like how I feel with yoshi

[johnnykillsagain]

Very strong