VICTOR PLAYERS

[Boboondo]

if you play this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ french baguette old retired colonel sanders, then you are undoubtedly a trash human being with a small penis.

insane punishes, flying over the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ screen and slashes you with his laser dildo, teleporting and dodging literally everything, no room for breathing just constantly forced into defense, this mf is worse than king.

Can't wait for this ♥♥♥♥♥ to get nerfed and all of you can cry.

[kryeed]

self hate isn't good bro.

[C1REX]

Such topics are a good indicator of which characters are scrub killers.

[Stryder]

5 mins ago? wasnt me was it lol. did you get the oui oui baguette.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Such topics are a good indicator of which characters are scrub killers.

Objectively he is not balanced tho chip needs nerfs and some moves are too good

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by C1REX:

Such topics are a good indicator of which characters are scrub killers.

Objectively he is not balanced tho chip needs nerfs and some moves are too good

What moves are too good?

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Objectively he is not balanced tho chip needs nerfs and some moves are too good

What moves are too good?

So first his 20f low sweep which is a high crush with tracking and counter hit launcher this is too good then u2 homing fast mid safe must have smaller range it is too much then 15f high powercrush which is safe heat engager something from those abilities has to go it does all the work for victor then infamous invincibility move like dvj samsara the one teleporting victor in the air with the ground slam sure -20 but in heat it is a nightmare gotta at least lower chip dmg and dmg on hit as it does like 50 dmg on hit. Overall chip dmg toning down in heat he can take half your hp if you just stand and block for 10 seconds

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by C1REX:

What moves are too good?

So first his 20f low sweep which is a high crush with tracking and counter hit launcher this is too good then u2 homing fast mid safe must have smaller range it is too much then 15f high powercrush which is safe heat engager something from those abilities has to go it does all the work for victor then infamous invincibility move like dvj samsara the one teleporting victor in the air with the ground slam sure -20 but in heat it is a nightmare gotta at least lower chip dmg and dmg on hit as it does like 50 dmg on hit. Overall chip dmg toning down in heat he can take half your hp if you just stand and block for 10 seconds

I don’t see anything special about the mentioned moves when so many characters have a better version of it.
The only oddly strong move is his u1+2 in heat and how it can track but is not very consistent and people are starting to learn how to deal with it.
The most OP thing about Victor are his throws in my opinion. They are so hard to break it’s like having a fast unblockable move for 35 damage. They break the game as you can kind of punish stuff that has less than -10 on block.

[Rutabaga]

Victor is, it seems to me, monstly bad because you put zero effort in and just oblitterate players who aren't that strong. I imagine at higher levels Victor will not be as opressive. He just has the perfect kit to explode players in beginner and medium ranks, and is incredibly boring to go against. You see this in ranked a fair bit. Victor players at like Mighty Ruler who can't do anything when you get in their face and shut the spam down with basic pokes and throws. The problem is just getting in there.

Not the same as being OP, and he doesn't in any way have the monopoly on slaying beginners, but certainly a frustrating character to go against. Not a huge fan.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

So first his 20f low sweep which is a high crush with tracking and counter hit launcher this is too good then u2 homing fast mid safe must have smaller range it is too much then 15f high powercrush which is safe heat engager something from those abilities has to go it does all the work for victor then infamous invincibility move like dvj samsara the one teleporting victor in the air with the ground slam sure -20 but in heat it is a nightmare gotta at least lower chip dmg and dmg on hit as it does like 50 dmg on hit. Overall chip dmg toning down in heat he can take half your hp if you just stand and block for 10 seconds

I don’t see anything special about the mentioned moves when so many characters have a better version of it.
The only oddly strong move is his u1+2 in heat and how it can track but is not very consistent and people are starting to learn how to deal with it.
The most OP thing about Victor are his throws in my opinion. They are so hard to break it’s like having a fast unblockable move for 35 damage. They break the game as you can kind of punish stuff that has less than -10 on block.

,,It is balanced cause other chars are broken" it doesn't work like this if you justify moves doing everything for you then there is nothing to discuss and no character has better version of his full screen unreactable 20f low counter hit launcher

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by C1REX:

I don’t see anything special about the mentioned moves when so many characters have a better version of it.
The only oddly strong move is his u1+2 in heat and how it can track but is not very consistent and people are starting to learn how to deal with it.
The most OP thing about Victor are his throws in my opinion. They are so hard to break it’s like having a fast unblockable move for 35 damage. They break the game as you can kind of punish stuff that has less than -10 on block.

,,It is balanced cause other chars are broken" it doesn't work like this if you justify moves doing everything for you then there is nothing to discuss and no character has better version of his full screen unreactable 20f low counter hit launcher

Kazuya and Devil Jin have a real low combo launcher that doesn’t need CH.
20f is really slow at close range when players fight for every frame. It’s more about getting lucky from neutral I think.
I think his 1+2 15f mid that is a launcher on CH but safe on block is a more dangerous tool.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

,,It is balanced cause other chars are broken" it doesn't work like this if you justify moves doing everything for you then there is nothing to discuss and no character has better version of his full screen unreactable 20f low counter hit launcher

Kazuya and Devil Jin have a real low combo launcher that doesn’t need CH.
20f is really slow at close range when players fight for every frame. It’s more about getting lucky from neutral I think.
I think his 1+2 15f mid that is a launcher on CH but safe on block is a more dangerous tool.

Kazuya doesn't have any low launcher on normal hit and his d1+2 is 23 frames can be sidestepped and only launches on counter hit 20 f is unreactable

I will explain to you the problem with this victor move
-You don't need to think about neutral and spacing cause it hits from full screen
-You don't need to be affraid that someone interrupts you cause it will crush jabs and even some mids so you can use it carelessly
-No one will react to it cause it is unreactable
-You don't need to be affraid of someone stepping you cause it has tracking and if they try to sidestep launch you then you will ch launch them
Notice how many times i used ,,You don't need to" because i want to emphasize how many things this move does for you

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by C1REX:

Kazuya and Devil Jin have a real low combo launcher that doesn’t need CH.
20f is really slow at close range when players fight for every frame. It’s more about getting lucky from neutral I think.
I think his 1+2 15f mid that is a launcher on CH but safe on block is a more dangerous tool.

Kazuya doesn't have any low launcher on normal hit and his d1+2 is 23 frames can be sidestepped and only launches on counter hit 20 f is unreactable

I will explain to you the problem with this victor move
-You don't need to think about neutral and spacing cause it hits from full screen
-You don't need to be affraid that someone interrupts you cause it will crush jabs and even some mids so you can use it carelessly
-No one will react to it cause it is unreactable
-You don't need to be affraid of someone stepping you cause it has tracking and if they try to sidestep launch you then you will ch launch them
Notice how many times i used ,,You don't need to" because i want to emphasize how many things this move does for you

Maybe. I simply haven’t seen anybody abusing this move, either in my online matches or in some pros' games on YouTube. I’m not saying it’s a bad move - it’s a great move but not reaching a level of being overpowered or defining Victor as OP, in my opinion. I’m open to changing my mind - I just need to see the move being abused in some higher level games.

[בתאניה]

Originally posted by Boboondo:

if you play this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ french baguette old retired colonel sanders, then you are undoubtedly a trash human being with a small penis.

insane punishes, flying over the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ screen and slashes you with his laser dildo, teleporting and dodging literally everything, no room for breathing just constantly forced into defense, this mf is worse than king.

Can't wait for this ♥♥♥♥♥ to get nerfed and all of you can cry.

Yeah, frustrating to get repeatedly owned by Victor players, just combo you to death and not let you even get up... it's ridiculous..

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Kazuya doesn't have any low launcher on normal hit and his d1+2 is 23 frames can be sidestepped and only launches on counter hit 20 f is unreactable

I will explain to you the problem with this victor move
-You don't need to think about neutral and spacing cause it hits from full screen
-You don't need to be affraid that someone interrupts you cause it will crush jabs and even some mids so you can use it carelessly
-No one will react to it cause it is unreactable
-You don't need to be affraid of someone stepping you cause it has tracking and if they try to sidestep launch you then you will ch launch them
Notice how many times i used ,,You don't need to" because i want to emphasize how many things this move does for you

Maybe. I simply haven’t seen anybody abusing this move, either in my online matches or in some pros' games on YouTube. I’m not saying it’s a bad move - it’s a great move but not reaching a level of being overpowered or defining Victor as OP, in my opinion. I’m open to changing my mind - I just need to see the move being abused in some higher level games.

Well not many people use him optimally he is not op just needs some balancing

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Well not much people use him optimally he is not op just needs some balancing

Maybe you are right but it’s very early to call him OP and especially that specific move.

I watch Arslan Ash on YT and I don’t remember him using that move too much. Same for other top players online.

Arslan Ash and Knee don’t consider Victor to be in top 5.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he end up as a mid tier when his throws got fixed.