Cheater numbers are insane, didnt notice before. How to identify them:

[Kazanaki-san]

Since the 2 discords discovered full with cheaters i didnt even bother checking players i thought everyone was legit but then i started checking replays. Literally 1 in every 7-8 PC opponents is using something in ranked. Actually insane. To clarify further, my criteria for categorizing someone as cheater is : 1) PC user, 2) High low blocks and parries + 0 mids connecting, 3) same inputs everytime with 0 misinput, 4) private steam profiles, 5) has ♥♥♥♥ offense or bad flowcharts but perfect defense. Reminder they can set up their scripts to not parry/low block 100% to avoid suspicion but the inputs never lie, always check them before reporting/blocking them. And obviously there are the guys who dont give a fk and duck everystring and have perma pewgf macro. The situation is sad but the numbers kinda make sense if u think about it, they found like 600+ cheaters in that discord and there are average 6k players playing this game on steam. This is mostly an awareness post to help you identify them. Harada fix ur lame game, pathetic.

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

There will be a handful of players here and elsewhere- that will tell you that cheating isn't happening, isnt noticeable, isn't on console, etc.


That isn't true. The co sole cheating g is limited- that is true currently, but hiding your pc as a console is one of the first hacks or spoons these players utilize.

Ranked online is kinda the wild west right now.

Don't beat yourself up over progress, growth, etc. With this turkeys around.

I would suggest playing in small groups in lobbies until season 2 at the very least.

[Chaser82]

Originally posted by Kazanaki-san:

The situation is sad but the numbers kinda make sense if u think about it, they found like 600+ cheaters in that discord and there are average 6k players playing this game on steam. This is mostly an awareness post to help you identify them. Harada fix ur lame game, pathetic.

Oh, you think everyone plays ranked every day? What you see on steam is the entirety of playerbase, you believe? 6k daily players may indicate up to 100k+ unique monthly players, and that's steam only. So update your math.

the game sold over 3,000,000 copies, do you really think that 2,994,000 people bought it just to play story mode and uninstall? xD

Then, I've heard that those exposed cheater discord servers were not just Tekken8 oriented, but for many games. So divide those 600 known cheaters by some number.

Finally, you didn't provide any proof of a single cheater you've met. As practice shows - see similar threads - with a high probability they were not cheating.

So, OP is cherry-picking facts to fit their desired conclusions, manipulating statistical data, and stirring up panic over nothing.

[ShadowSplit]

Main signs I noticed is a lot of 1 frame moves, private profiles and low defensive stats while blocking a lot.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There will be a handful of players here and elsewhere- that will tell you that cheating isn't happening, isnt noticeable, isn't on console, etc.


That isn't true. The co sole cheating g is limited- that is true currently, but hiding your pc as a console is one of the first hacks or spoons these players utilize.

Ranked online is kinda the wild west right now.

Don't beat yourself up over progress, growth, etc. With this turkeys around.

I would suggest playing in small groups in lobbies until season 2 at the very least.

I'm one of those who say that cheating is small. I recently made a fool of myself (more than usually) blaming a legit player for cheating when he was simply that much better and me being an idiot scrub.

You can prove me wrong showing a single YT video with legit script user that shows as a console player.
I challenge anybody to tell me who I've played with was a script cheater. My Steam name and Tekken ID is the same. Anybody can check my replays.
https://wank.wavu.wiki/player/362J9RJTH8tB

Nobody will check my replays? Well, it would be a waste of time as there are no script users.
But if not mine can anybody tell who in their match history was using scripts?
I can record a video. It should be plenty to choose from if it's so common, right?

[Kazanaki-san]

Originally posted by Chaser82:

Originally posted by Kazanaki-san:

The situation is sad but the numbers kinda make sense if u think about it, they found like 600+ cheaters in that discord and there are average 6k players playing this game on steam. This is mostly an awareness post to help you identify them. Harada fix ur lame game, pathetic.

Oh, you think everyone plays ranked every day? What you see on steam is the entirety of playerbase, you believe? 6k daily players may indicate up to 100k+ unique monthly players, and that's steam only. So update your math.

the game sold over 3,000,000 copies, do you really think that 2,994,000 people bought it just to play story mode and uninstall? xD

Then, I've heard that those exposed cheater discord servers were not just Tekken8 oriented, but for many games. So divide those 600 known cheaters by some number.

Finally, you didn't provide any proof of a single cheater you've met. As practice shows - see similar threads - with a high probability they were not cheating.

So, OP is cherry-picking facts to fit their desired conclusions, manipulating statistical data, and stirring up panic over nothing.

First of all you are private profile :) 2nd its 600 cheaters on only 1 discord and these are considered relatively active cheaters ( because they bought subscription last month ) so you can assume half of them are at least are active. So when steam says 5k online right now u can assume some number of them would be in there. But my friend u forget that thats just 1 discord, there are other discord we dont know and also who told you that u need discord to buy cheats? U can have cheats without discord. Also what evidence do you need? i explained you how to identify them, i can give you names and printscreen their repetitive perfect inputs and abnormal low parry+block inputs. Stop living under a rock, the genie is out of the bottle. You think all this ruckus by big players is for nothing?

[Chaser82]

Originally posted by Kazanaki-san:

First of all you are private profile :) 2nd its 600 cheaters on only 1 discord and these are considered relatively active cheaters ( because they bought subscription last month ) so you can assume half of them are at least are active. So when steam says 5k online right now u can assume some number of them would be in there. But my friend u forget that thats just 1 discord, there are other discord we dont know and also who told you that u need discord to buy cheats? U can have cheats without discord. Also what evidence do you need? i explained you how to identify them, i can give you names and printscreen their repetitive perfect inputs and abnormal low parry+block inputs. Stop living under a rock, the genie is out of the bottle. You think all this ruckus by big players is for nothing?

We can assume whatever we want. What are the facts? you have proven 300 cheaters among hundreds of thousands players? congrats. All other similar panic posts failed to provide an evidence of more than 1 cheater in their whole replay history. Even in that case it was a macros user, and macros are available for download in steam input settings:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3435940193

all that buzz in clickbait channels is for clicks, obviously. the topic is hot and people like you help to inflate it even more.. A chain reaction with positive feedback. Now another bunch of people will read this and rush to look for "cheaters" in their replays. And oh, of course! Someone blocked 2 lows and broke 2 throws - well, surely he's a cheater!

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There will be a handful of players here and elsewhere- that will tell you that cheating isn't happening, isnt noticeable, isn't on console, etc.


That isn't true. The co sole cheating g is limited- that is true currently, but hiding your pc as a console is one of the first hacks or spoons these players utilize.

Ranked online is kinda the wild west right now.

Don't beat yourself up over progress, growth, etc. With this turkeys around.

I would suggest playing in small groups in lobbies until season 2 at the very least.

I'm one of those who say that cheating is small. I recently made a fool of myself (more than usually) blaming a legit player for cheating when he was simply that much better and me being an idiot scrub.

You can prove me wrong showing a single YT video with legit script user that shows as a console player.
I challenge anybody to tell me who I've played with was a script cheater. My Steam name and Tekken ID is the same. Anybody can check my replays.
https://wank.wavu.wiki/player/362J9RJTH8tB

Nobody will check my replays? Well, it would be a waste of time as there are no script users.
But if not mine can anybody tell who in their match history was using scripts?
I can record a video. It should be plenty to choose from if it's so common, right?

Look,

We have been over this many times. Read what I posted. I know autocorrect messed up a bit on my phone- but pc players spoofing as console is what is leading many to see "cheaters doing scripts and bots on console"

Don't be silly.

Cheaters are there. Different types of cheaters appear on pc as opposed to console- it doesn't mean that console does not have cheaters.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

Look,

We have been over this many times. Read what I posted. I know autocorrect messed up a bit on my phone- but pc players spoofing as console is what is leading many to see "cheaters doing scripts and bots on console"

Don't be silly.

Cheaters are there. Different types of cheaters appear on pc as opposed to console- it doesn't mean that console does not have cheaters.

Of course cheaters are there.
Nobody argue about that.
The discussion is about how common it really is. I personally almost never see them. I think I met only 2 in close to 500h time.
If somebody met one then please post a video. Or let me know where to find it on your replay list and I will post it to expose bastards.
I see people saying that cheaters are everywhere but when actually asked to show one they can't find a single one in their replay list. I'm talking about legit cheaters using auto block, duck, throw break etc and not macro electric that can be recorded on some controllers.

I also don't say that it's not possible to make a PC look like a console online but I haven't seen such cheat yet.

[Maxaemon]

These cheats have gone so sophisticated, to the point that you can't even tell through inputs examination. The script can randomise everything opponent is doing/cheating, they can also turn the hacks on and off anytime, they can set % of how much auto ducks and parries work and so on. This is unprecedented level of bad. Not even sure if accepting only console players from now on is the best option to avoid cheaters bcs they might even be on to that ♥♥♥♥ too.

We need to name and shame, it's obviously not ideal bcs there will be some pple who are legit that good catching strays but there's no other way, they have to take the hit. So cheater blacklist needs to be created and hung publicly for everyone to see, pinned at the top of the forums, or someone creates a big website and promotes it everywhere. Some legit ones will die for the cause, very small amount nothing crazy, it's better then doing nothing. Cheaters can't sue against blacklist if it's fan made, Don't think Bamco will lift a finger for an anti-cheat so it's on fans.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Maxaemon:

These cheats have gone so sophisticated, to the point that you can't even tell through inputs examination.

Do you have any proof of that? That it can’t be detected?
Sure, it can be adjusted to make it less obvious but still can be detected when looked at the frame data.

It would also mostly affect max ranks. You can’t avoid max rank for long if you win about 52% of fights. The cheat doesn’t work if someone is still stuck below max ranks.

Do you suspect anybody from your match history?

[DA PWN3R 007]

I outed Wize Man as a bot, a “player” who was months later called out by the highly reputable GMfizzle for suspect play. He was likely one of those PC guys spoofing as console, as his icon is a console:

My upload:
https://youtu.be/u3Vt7OGkSG4?si=viIRvn4YcBP-5-LV

fightinggm’s uploads:
https://youtu.be/7DB8fUDD1kM?si=i4-d3Wphd5yEV4yK

https://youtu.be/gsXtpZTfK34?si=im-6MUv9uSYaPX2n

[C1REX]

Originally posted by DA PWN3R 007:

The first video looks like a lucky mash.

I’ve asked FightingGM about his Tekken Fraud videos. He said they are not cheaters.

https://ibb.co/Fb3tQ6Y

[Clive Kekfield]

Originally posted by Kazanaki-san:

Since the 2 discords discovered full with cheaters i didnt even bother checking players i thought everyone was legit but then i started checking replays. Literally 1 in every 7-8 PC opponents is using something in ranked. Actually insane. To clarify further, my criteria for categorizing someone as cheater is : 1) PC user, 2) High low blocks and parries + 0 mids connecting, 3) same inputs everytime with 0 misinput, 4) private steam profiles, 5) has ♥♥♥♥ offense or bad flowcharts but perfect defense. Reminder they can set up their scripts to not parry/low block 100% to avoid suspicion but the inputs never lie, always check them before reporting/blocking them. And obviously there are the guys who dont give a fk and duck everystring and have perma pewgf macro. The situation is sad but the numbers kinda make sense if u think about it, they found like 600+ cheaters in that discord and there are average 6k players playing this game on steam. This is mostly an awareness post to help you identify them. Harada fix ur lame game, pathetic.

To add, sorry if you said it, wall of text and i may missed it.

1. Low block / parries mostly on 1st frame. I know hud can be configuered but if someone low blocks, parries or ducks LP(1) or RP(2) on first frame, that is humanly impossible.

2. They try ducking, low blocking while getting juggles with or without wall.

3. Most ppl uses the old Hud from 2024 feburary.
The new one can autopunish, so as you said, when they cant launch punish something easy as snake edge its a hint.


The good thing is, the Hud was tempered with. So for the ppl using it, congratulation it has a trojan, i bet the alarm from windows couldnt stop the urge to still have it access to your pc. Ah and Alipay ofcourse, if you read his HP he wants you to use Alipay, i wonder why. I mean we know.

[Clive Kekfield]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by DA PWN3R 007:

The first video looks like a lucky mash.

I’ve asked FightingGM about his Tekken Fraud videos. He said they are not cheaters.

https://ibb.co/Fb3tQ6Y

Man the "cheater" video even got posted, it was a Paul with the new movement macro.

My question, or our, you have absolute no clue about cheats and how they work, why are you always so eagerly protecting cheaters and trying to shill for them?

You even say its not possible on console.....Just a little hint, you dont need to crack/hack or whatever to get access to the hardrive. Its not that (the cheater) wants to have free games.

The hud just needs to run and most ppl that have a clue about that already said yes to it with a far bigger following and a better knowladge backing. And no thats not shaming.

How that works cant be written down here cause of sony, they dont like it if you tamper with their "hardware".

So short answer, console CAN BE CHEATED WITH. Not as much as on the Pc tho. So if you only accept console player you most likely have far less cheaters.

Man if there would have been waring about the hud for like 6 month and the group was made fun of. Except you that dont do anything constructive we sended the hud and videos with training data to Bandai.

Now its far too late this community got warned now if the cheaters now how to configure the hud you wont detect it or it wouldnt be enought to get them banned :)

This community was reporting for shaming instead of standing against cheaters XD
Have fun playing like NPC´s and not even knowing a cheater got you....not that you ppl got it in any way.

[Zagryzaec]

And I'm still yet to meet a single cheater.