Lidia needs nerf

[SaberKai]

Her combo track really hard
During her stance jab punish doesn't work nor low kick.
During heaven wrath stance is way too fccking cheap.
Like i don't evenings know what I'm supposed to do in this situation when she get away with all this free shxxxt.

[Boss]

She's pretty weak outside of her stance pipeline and she's like top 3 worst tracking in the game, sounds like a knowledge and/or skill issue.

[Ring Master Jesus]

You're wrong. Lidia is one of the weakest in the roster. She is very linear, she has bad homing moves. Her staple game plan revolves around pressuring with ff+2 which is easily beat by parries and power crush. Without using ff+2 she becomes even weaker. Her strong moves such as d/b+3 are launch punishable. Her b+1 which is only +2 on block is linear and has a startup of 18 frames. The only thing she has is strong heat pressure in heaven stance which can also become punishable by characters with a parry. Lidia is weak compared to the top tiers who has very safe abusable moves.

[/_Alliams_/ Die in Silence]

nerf lidia!!!!!!!!

[Cheez3™]

she only needs a bit of nerfs in heat. in heat she's a different whole character, insane preassure and real 50/50s

[pablonesmrtelny]

She propably isn't OP she is just a no skill spam character. Perfectly fitting T8 roster :D

[3.14DRILLA_NAKINGE]

Op stop with whiny X character needs nerf posts it will get you nowhere.

[Kat The Wolfheart]

I agree nerf Lidia and Devil Jin while at it!

[JON.BKK]

Bro, she's one of my mains and I gotta tell you, the majority already figured her out by simply ducking or blocking those mid power moves. I can't go beyond Battle Ruler with her and that's completely fine.

She's extremely linear. If you check her overall usage statistics, she's in lower mid! I don't see and fight her a lot in the whole ASIA 1-3 region! She's so rare. Also, definitely not OP.

In fact I wish she would get some push here and there. Still, she's awesome. I don't know why I click with her. Maybe I have a pension for hot white blonde ladies? ^^

Originally posted by SaberKai:

Her combo track really hard
During her stance jab punish doesn't work nor low kick.
During heaven wrath stance is way too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheap.
Like i don't evenings know what I'm supposed to do in this situation when she get away with all this free shxxxt.

[Kat The Wolfheart]

Originally posted by JON.BKK:

Bro, she's one of my mains and I gotta tell you, the majority already figured her out by simply ducking or blocking those mid power moves. I can't go beyond Battle Ruler with her and that's completely fine.

She's extremely linear. If you check her overall usage statistics, she's in lower mid! I don't see and fight her a lot in the whole ASIA 1-3 region! She's so rare. Also, definitely not OP.

In fact I wish she would get some push here and there. Still, she's awesome. I don't know why I click with her. Maybe I have a pension for hot white blonde ladies? ^^

Originally posted by SaberKai:

Her combo track really hard
During her stance jab punish doesn't work nor low kick.
During heaven wrath stance is way too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheap.
Like i don't evenings know what I'm supposed to do in this situation when she get away with all this free shxxxt.

Don't listen to the bs scrubs will throw at you, you need to be very defensive with her all the while making sure you don't let your opponents go unpunished, make every CH, low parry etc count.
You do also need a basic MU knowledge and fundamentals like spacing and hard reads (extremely risky but rewarding) while playing her.

[Dr Shlump]

Bro got rocked by one red ranked lidia and now hes crying about nerfs.

[RuneOfSarg]

Lidia's a harder kit to deal with. Especially since you also can't go into practice and experiment with her kit if you don't own her.

She has a lot of moves that can bring you to the floor. Absolutely. But, figuring out how to adapt to those will stop her in her tracks.

You notice a finisher that clearly puts her in the negative?
Take that initiative and go for something that starts with a jab.

She being oppressive with not a lot of actual finishers in play?
Power Crush. Every character has at least one. If you can time those frames well enough, You'll be able to take back the initiative (In fact Shaheen's Power Crush BLUESPARKS when he gets hit.)

And lastly, is she being defensive, or just standing around in a stance?
Grab. Her.
This may just be the King Brain talking but a Counterhit grab takes a LOT of execution to break. It is near unreachable.
When I notice stancers just sticking around, not doing much with what they have set, a good Tomahawk/Shining Wizard to the face will wake them up better than a cuppa Joe.

Oh and also, do watch out for her High and Mid unlockables out of heat burst. Be ready to duck after she finishes it.
Won't work Everytime but most to for the High Unblockable.

[Kat The Wolfheart]

Originally posted by RuneOfSarg:

Lidia's a harder kit to deal with. Especially since you also can't go into practice and experiment with her kit if you don't own her.

She has a lot of moves that can bring you to the floor. Absolutely. But, figuring out how to adapt to those will stop her in her tracks.

You notice a finisher that clearly puts her in the negative?
Take that initiative and go for something that starts with a jab.

She being oppressive with not a lot of actual finishers in play?
Power Crush. Every character has at least one. If you can time those frames well enough, You'll be able to take back the initiative (In fact Shaheen's Power Crush BLUESPARKS when he gets hit.)

And lastly, is she being defensive, or just standing around in a stance?
Grab. Her.
This may just be the King Brain talking but a Counterhit grab takes a LOT of execution to break. It is near unreachable.
When I notice stancers just sticking around, not doing much with what they have set, a good Tomahawk/Shining Wizard to the face will wake them up better than a cuppa Joe.

Oh and also, do watch out for her High and Mid unlockables out of heat burst. Be ready to duck after she finishes it.
Won't work Everytime but most to for the High Unblockable.

She only has a high unblockable in her heat stance.

[[RNGR|x|GORO]]

Originally posted by SaberKai:

Her combo track really hard
During her stance jab punish doesn't work nor low kick.
During heaven wrath stance is way too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cheap.
Like i don't evenings know what I'm supposed to do in this situation when she get away with all this free shxxxt.

Yep, she's the most broken char in the game. Her jab should be -19 and it should do chip damage to LIDIA