Alisa's heat and chip damage.

[C1REX]

https://youtu.be/rNpQBL1cJfw?si=NMPzMrGjEt1OpUuY

So he put Alisa in S tier for heat.

Why?
He said she has insane chip damage with chainsaws in heat.
What moves in heat do S tier chip damage? I main her and don't see her chip damage.
I see recoverable grey damage in my combos instead.

[CrimsonZako]

You main Alisa right? Didn’t you notice all the insane chip damage with her chainsaws inflicted on your opponents? It doesn’t need to be a specific move, everything does great chip damage for Alisa in heat.

[C1REX]

Originally posted by CrimsonZako:

You main Alisa right? Didn’t you notice all the insane chip damage with her chainsaws inflicted on your opponents? It doesn’t need to be a specific move, everything does great chip damage for Alisa in heat.

What move? I can't see it. Everything does tiny chip damage. Irrelevant really.
Maybe one exception is DES f1+2 but it has super short range, million startup frames and can be only used at a massive frame advantage after heat engager. Like once per round.

[Prøxy]

Not sure if it was changed, but a couple of months ago Alisa did roughly 8 - 10% chip damage with chainsaw attacks. On top of being a solid, strong character, I'd say that fairly puts her in A+/S tier.

[lemstryz]

How do you main Alisa but don't know her. I don't even main her and know her more.

Let me tell you since you don't know:
Pretty much all her destruction form moves does a lot more chip dmg in heat but the biggest culprits are: F1+2 and F1. They do INSANE CHIP and you put your opponent in a blender. If you do F1 and the opponent contests with a 10F jab, they lose and you deal damage to them because chainsaws is plus on block. If they decide to duck and you do F1+2, they get blown up. F1 and F1+2 mixup is a whole mind game and if your opponent doesn't get out of it in time, they just ate insane amount of chip damage. Also B2,1 does insane chip dmg as well and while it is negative, you're only -3 on block so you could use your destruction form movement (U3 and U1 is GODLIKE movement utility) to make your opponent whiff and start the blender all the fk over again.

Her heatsmash is mid asf but who need that when you can spam chainsaw moves AND IT DOESN'T USE HEAT METER.


If you STILL not understanding,.... Go to the lab and put the cpu on standing block. See the result of 3 Destruction Form F1's chip damage

If you haven't been doing this, try it. See how much it carries you in ranked. You'll hit blue or even gold if you have decent at best fundamentals

[76561199256874826]

so, did you open this thread for alisa main to come in and tell you, that she indeed has no good chip dmage? and if u can not see that alisa is doing huge chip damage... well, do you really main her? i also recommend stop watching tmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRhxbl0k0s right at the start of the vid.
he went from 60% hp to getting possibly knocked down and killed with a follow up, with chip damage alone.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by lemstryz:

How do you main Alisa but don't know her. I don't even main her and know her more.

Let me tell you since you don't know:
Pretty much all her destruction form moves does a lot more chip dmg in heat but the biggest culprits are: F1+2 and F1. They do INSANE CHIP and you put your opponent in a blender. If you do F1 and the opponent contests with a 10F jab, they lose and you deal damage to them because chainsaws is plus on block. If they decide to duck and you do F1+2, they get blown up. F1 and F1+2 mixup is a whole mind game and if your opponent doesn't get out of it in time, they just ate insane amount of chip damage.

Side Walk Left, you're welcome.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Rakarr:

so, did you open this thread for alisa main to come in and tell you, that she indeed has no good chip dmage? and if u can not see that alisa is doing huge chip damage... well, do you really main her? i also recommend stop watching tmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRhxbl0k0s right at the start of the vid.
he went from 60% hp to getting possibly knocked down and killed with a follow up, with chip damage alone.

Most of that chip damage came from a combo, and yes, Alisa's DES f2,1,2 does a lot of chip damage, it's the 2nd highest chip damage heat dash in the game, which is a problem for 1 simple reason.

Alisa is meant to be have the highest chip damage in heat as a trade off for having the worst heat smash in the game and no other heat properties beside the chip damage, buuuut, Leroy has the highest chip damage heat dash in the game.

[76561199256874826]

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

Originally posted by Rakarr:

so, did you open this thread for alisa main to come in and tell you, that she indeed has no good chip dmage? and if u can not see that alisa is doing huge chip damage... well, do you really main her? i also recommend stop watching tmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRhxbl0k0s right at the start of the vid.
he went from 60% hp to getting possibly knocked down and killed with a follow up, with chip damage alone.

Most of that chip damage came from a combo, and yes, Alisa's DES f2,1,2 does a lot of chip damage, it's the 2nd highest chip damage heat dash in the game, which is a problem for 1 simple reason.

Alisa is meant to be have the highest chip damage in heat as a trade off for having the worst heat smash in the game and no other heat properties beside the chip damage, buuuut, Leroy has the highest chip damage heat dash in the game.

the grey life yes...wich is not chip damge. chip damage is done on block and also results in grey life. game is out long enough, i expect a big talker like you to know the difference.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Rakarr:

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

Most of that chip damage came from a combo, and yes, Alisa's DES f2,1,2 does a lot of chip damage, it's the 2nd highest chip damage heat dash in the game, which is a problem for 1 simple reason.

Alisa is meant to be have the highest chip damage in heat as a trade off for having the worst heat smash in the game and no other heat properties beside the chip damage, buuuut, Leroy has the highest chip damage heat dash in the game.

the grey life yes...wich is not chip damge. chip damage is done on block and also results in grey life. game is out long enough, i expect a big talker like you to know the difference.

So you had no counter argument to what I said and went for semantics, alright, w/e,

[76561199256874826]

twisting and twirling is no argument. weirdo...
imagine beeing so into cutie cute characters that you can not even handle simple facts. bye

[Bon❄超変態駄目青年学生退屈日常自己嫌悪克服]

yes buff Alisa pls

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Rakarr:

so, did you open this thread for alisa main to come in and tell you, that she indeed has no good chip dmage? and if u can not see that alisa is doing huge chip damage... well, do you really main her? i also recommend stop watching tmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzRhxbl0k0s right at the start of the vid.
he went from 60% hp to getting possibly knocked down and killed with a follow up, with chip damage alone.

Almost all grey health was recoverable health from combos. It wasn't chip damage even if looks the same.
The only real chip damage was from heat dash but that burns all the heat and is an universal mechanics for all characters.

[76561199256874826]

tekken king alisa btw.
unbelievable...

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by C1REX:

https://youtu.be/rNpQBL1cJfw?si=NMPzMrGjEt1OpUuY

So he put Alisa in S tier for heat.

Why?
He said she has insane chip damage with chainsaws in heat.
What moves in heat do S tier chip damage? I main her and don't see her chip damage.
I see recoverable grey damage in my combos instead.

I mean just go into DES and let it rip... you will start noticing the chip pretty fast.

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

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