Someone pls explain why you are minus when throw-break?

[Рафнсвартр]

I can't fathom why this ♥♥♥♥ even exists in this game. You break the throw, which is not that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy, certainly not as easy as spamming them stupid throws with the counter hit properties, etc. So, you break the thro AND you are minus at that. What kind of game design is that? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I swear they made this game for mashers only.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

For most this is scrub quote but i agree you broke throw and then you are at disadvantage especially when using char with bad pokes which preferable distance is 2.5-3.5 not to mention side switch

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

For most this is scrub quote but i agree you broke throw and then you are at disadvantage especially when using char with bad pokes which preferable distance is 2.5-3.5 not to mention side switch

I did rant a bit, my bad. This is messed up tho. Why they even did that, and is it even a legacy thing or just new t8 stuff

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by Рафнсвартр:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

For most this is scrub quote but i agree you broke throw and then you are at disadvantage especially when using char with bad pokes which preferable distance is 2.5-3.5 not to mention side switch

I did rant a bit, my bad. This is messed up tho. Why they even did that, and is it even a legacy thing or just new t8 stuff

Legacy stuff

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by Рафнсвартр:

I did rant a bit, my bad. This is messed up tho. Why they even did that, and is it even a legacy thing or just new t8 stuff

Legacy stuff

That's crazy. Especially 'cause throws were even harder to break before 7

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by Рафнсвартр:

I can't fathom why this ♥♥♥♥ even exists in this game. You break the throw, which is not that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy, certainly not as easy as spamming them stupid throws with the counter hit properties, etc. So, you break the thro AND you are minus at that. What kind of game design is that? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I swear they made this game for mashers only.

Yeah I agree. There should be a clearer disadvantage. I wouldn't even mind if the situation after was at least a little more homogenized so you don't have to know frames and pushback on each brake individually.

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[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

Originally posted by Рафнсвартр:

I can't fathom why this ♥♥♥♥ even exists in this game. You break the throw, which is not that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easy, certainly not as easy as spamming them stupid throws with the counter hit properties, etc. So, you break the thro AND you are minus at that. What kind of game design is that? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I swear they made this game for mashers only.

Yeah I agree. There should be a clearer disadvantage. I wouldn't even mind if the situation after was at least a little more homogenized so you don't have to know frames and pushback on each brake individually.

gotta backdash electric i guess

[Рафнсвартр]

Even with that, Tekken 8 probably the best fighting game in 2024

[StRyK]

What kind of throw are we talking about and what is your disadvantage after breaking?

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by StRyK:

What kind of throw are we talking about and what is your disadvantage after breaking?

Imagine you play for example kazuya and broke king throw

Now you are at his face without df1 only thing you can do is jab/step/backdash/pewgf/guess and here we are talking about reset neutral situation with frames 0 and already he is advantegous cause kaz should not be in close range. After throws however you are not even reseting neutral at frames 0

[StRyK]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by StRyK:

What kind of throw are we talking about and what is your disadvantage after breaking?

Imagine you play for example kazuya and broke king throw

Now you are at his face without df1 only thing you can do is jab/step/backdash/pewgf/guess and here we are talking about reset neutral situation with frames 0 and already he is advantegous cause kaz should not be in close range. After throws however you are not even reseting neutral at frames 0

Is 0 frames a problem now?

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by StRyK:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Imagine you play for example kazuya and broke king throw

Now you are at his face without df1 only thing you can do is jab/step/backdash/pewgf/guess and here we are talking about reset neutral situation with frames 0 and already he is advantegous cause kaz should not be in close range. After throws however you are not even reseting neutral at frames 0

Is 0 frames a problem now?

I broke your throw with skill and you still have advantage over me while playing stronger and easier char :)

And again you are not 0 after breaking throws :)

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by StRyK:

What kind of throw are we talking about and what is your disadvantage after breaking?

It doesn't say exact frame advantage for throw breaks, but you are not 0 after breaking. You should check it out yourself in practice mode if you are interested.

[Inkyubeytor]

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

Originally posted by StRyK:

Is 0 frames a problem now?

I broke your throw with skill and you still have advantage over me while playing stronger and easier char :)

And again you are not 0 after breaking throws :)

https://youtu.be/0W2wA52azHY?t=49

[Make otgf -9 pls]

Originally posted by Inkyubeytor:

Originally posted by Make otgf -9 pls:

I broke your throw with skill and you still have advantage over me while playing stronger and easier char :)

And again you are not 0 after breaking throws :)

https://youtu.be/0W2wA52azHY?t=49

Ofc i seen it and i disagree just breaking the throw should not be the reward itself as it still puts me in disadvantage frame wise range wise and side wise