I think I'm getting burnt out

[Braxton414]

At Bushin and stuck. I think I maybe just burnt out with the game because it is becoming very stale to me. Why is every character able to carry to the wall carry, why does everyone have a 50/50 game, why do rushdown characters have amazing evasive mechanics, why does heat pause the game, and why do certain characters have guard breaks?

[pablonesmrtelny]

Yeah people who know a little bit how to play the game begin to appear around Tekken king/emperor. Breaching that wall and staying up there is going to take a while.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

Yeah people who know a little bit how to play the game begin to appear around Tekken king/emperor. Breaching that wall and staying up there is going to take a while.

I see what you mean but that's not what I'm getting at. It just feels like characters don't have weakness anymore. For instance, Paul is a character that doesn't have many good lows and isn't the most evasive character. He should have high damage stings and a solid 50/50 game. However, he shouldn't be able to get to the wall after every exchange.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Yeah generally chars are overbuffed and you just cant defend. I also have to leave my Tekken 7 style behind and just be more active. You can't always just backdash into safety and observe. You can't always just sidestep block and gather info. If you are close you need to treat it like you are in a monstrous 50/50 and insta mash to avoid it. If you are far away you need to treat it like opponent is just setting up a giant 50/50 so you gotta interrupt him at any cost or insta approach him with own 50/50 he can't defent against unless he mashes first.

Its.... different :/

Not gonna lie T7 was so much better. It was beautiful destroying people with patience and movement alone not pressing a thing unless I deliberately want to. But we could say that it was kinda OP though now that I think about it.

[SHADOWMAT]

Yeah, if I want to win I can only play one way. Otherwise if I experiment I am KO'd by other players that play the same way. It get's boring doing the same moves. Online is a power crush fest.

[YT_RealDahmni]

how many hours did you put into tekken if you dont mind me asking

[kiteless 凧無し]

I’m in blue too, nothing wrong with being hard stuck. It’s a game, if it’s not your job then who cares

Take breaks. I only play Tekken at the weekend to avoid burning myself out

I much prefer Tekken 8 to 7. Maybe if you’re a defensive player you won’t like 8 so much but I’m not.

People need to take of the rose tints and stop pretending T7 was a perfect game when it wasn’t. People get blinded by nostalgia when they can’t deal with change and it skewers their perception

[Sirlion]

You know, I realized that playing a bit defensive and actually trying to be "fair" is not worth it. Playing moderately aggressive with a back-and-forth mindset is not cutting it, went down 3 ranks. But then I started powercrushing chainsaws without any regard for frame data, f+1+2 PC heat engager, random i14 punish for moves that didnt need it into heat engager, and just overwhelming the opponent with random pokes at random intervals, and it just clicked. People go down very fast.
The devs want you to press buttons, literally. Start doing "F-it, powercrush" whenever there is a gap, and press ♥♥♥♥ at random. It works.

[processor.dev1l]

Originally posted by Sirlion:

You know, I realized that playing a bit defensive and actually trying to be "fair" is not worth it. Playing moderately aggressive with a back-and-forth mindset is not cutting it, went down 3 ranks. But then I started powercrushing chainsaws without any regard for frame data, f+1+2 PC heat engager, random i14 punish for moves that didnt need it into heat engager, and just overwhelming the opponent with random pokes at random intervals, and it just clicked. People go down very fast.
The devs want you to press buttons, literally. Start doing "F-it, powercrush" whenever there is a gap, and press ♥♥♥♥ at random. It works.

This reminds me of the meme I saw yesterday: "you're negative on block only if you're a ♥♥♥♥♥" 😂

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Braxton414:

At Bushin and stuck. I think I maybe just burnt out with the game because it is becoming very stale to me. Why is every character able to carry to the wall carry, why does everyone have a 50/50 game, why do rushdown characters have amazing evasive mechanics, why does heat pause the game, and why do certain characters have guard breaks?

I’m in a similar situation. Also at Bushin and also getting tired of the game :(
I don’t have problem with monetisation or performance but I don’t enjoy the atmosphere around the game.

Everybody is so negative and salty. It’s getting very hard to find some friendly people to spar with. Discord is getting dead quiet. Some people also get mad furious when I win and I get hate messages. The community is full of “nobody owns you a rematch” cherry picking scrubs.

I also don’t like how much unreactable stuff the game has. Such moves make it easy to be mad at the game.

[Cheez3™]

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Braxton414:

At Bushin and stuck. I think I maybe just burnt out with the game because it is becoming very stale to me. Why is every character able to carry to the wall carry, why does everyone have a 50/50 game, why do rushdown characters have amazing evasive mechanics, why does heat pause the game, and why do certain characters have guard breaks?

I’m in a similar situation. Also at Bushin and also getting tired of the game :(
I don’t have problem with monetisation or performance but I don’t enjoy the atmosphere around the game.

Everybody is so negative and salty. It’s getting very hard to find some friendly people to spar with. Discord is getting dead quiet. Some people also get mad furious when I win and I get hate messages. The community is full of “nobody owns you a rematch” cherry picking scrubs.

I also don’t like how much unreactable stuff the game has. Such moves make it easy to be mad at the game.

dont feel bad for not reacting to a low, even gods of destruction can eat some lows like a noob, Devilster is a good example of it, the man mains jin and it's a monster playing, but sometimes he eats some lows, it's like humanly impossible to really track a low, the thing is way too fast.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by YT_RealDahmni:

how many hours did you put into tekken if you dont mind me asking

Damn tekken 7 was my first tekken I got serious with. I think it was about 300 hours, and I'm at 200 hours with tekken 8.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by SHADOWMAT:

Yeah, if I want to win I can only play one way. Otherwise if I experiment I am KO'd by other players that play the same way. It get's boring doing the same moves. Online is a power crush fest.

This exactly. I hit a slump about 2 weeks ago. I went from Bushin to Fujin. I went to my replays to see what I was doing wrong. I wasn't using Lee's b3,3 since I started using bf 3+4 ( low 19f kick +4 ob) more often. I sat back and thought damn can I seriously not win without using this move so much.

I miss those slow grueling df1 matches where you an your opponent are just hunting for a mistake. I'm back at Bushin but I'm just getting a little burnt out.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I’m in blue too; nothing wrong with being hard stuck. It’s a game; if it’s not your job, then who cares

Take breaks. I only play Tekken at the weekend to avoid burning myself out

I much prefer Tekken 8 to 7. Maybe if you’re a defensive player, you won’t like eight so much, but I’m not.

People need to take off the rose tints and stop pretending T7 was a perfect game when it wasn’t. People get blinded by nostalgia when they can’t deal with change, and it skewers their perception

I get where you're coming from, but I think you're forgetting this is a franchise. Change is fine. I love Tekken 7, and I'm sure for legacy players, 7 had a lot of stuff they didn't like. However, I've played a few casual local tournaments, and it seemed even legacy Tekken fans, like 7 after the Leory debacle.
I love that methodical play that I just don't get in 8. If I catch a person, it's usually over in a flash and vice versa. 7 had me using my entire moveset. Also, I could actually play defensively in 7. There was a variety of playstyle. Playing Hwoarang was different than playing King. Now it's almost identical. It gets old. I may have to take your idea of just playing on the weekends

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

Yeah, generally, chars are overbuffed, and you just cant defend. I also have to leave my Tekken 7 style behind and just be more active. You can't always just backdash into safety and observe. You can't always just sidestep block and gather info. If you are close you need to treat it like you are in a monstrous 50/50 and insta mash to avoid it. If you are far away you need to treat it like opponent is just setting up a giant 50/50 so you gotta interrupt him at any cost or insta approach him with own 50/50 he can't defent against unless he mashes first.

Its.... different :/

Not gonna lie T7 was so much better. It was beautiful destroying people with patience and movement alone not pressing a thing unless I deliberately want to. But we could say that it was kinda OP though, now that I think about it.

Yep, I call them df1 matches. You and your opponent are playing it safe, gauging each other's reactions. Then boom, you capitalize on a mistake.

In 7, I didn't have a flow chart. I was constantly adapting, forcing me to use my entire moveset. In 8, I have a flowchart, and that's it, and I'll adapt defensively. You can't just turtle when you're up because if a devil jin engages heat now I'm definitely gonna be on the defensive and now I'm forced to guess which 50/50 move I need guard against.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by Sirlion:

You know, I realized that playing a bit defensive and actually trying to be "fair" is not worth it. Playing moderately aggressive with a back-and-forth mindset is not cutting it, went down 3 ranks. But then I started powercrushing chainsaws without any regard for frame data, f+1+2 PC heat engager, random i14 punish for moves that didnt need it into heat engager, and just overwhelming the opponent with random pokes at random intervals, and it just clicked. People go down very fast.
The devs want you to press buttons, literally. Start doing "F-it, powercrush" whenever there is a gap, and press ♥♥♥♥ at random. It works.

Yep, I said in another forum post I don't believe in spam especially in 8. Everyone has a 50/50 game can wall carry, and insane power crushes. Offense is the best defense