What does everyone think about Yoshi’s flash?

[Arbor]

I think it’s a BS move in this game personally. I want to know your thoughts

[JyoKun]

Same as you, Yoshi should take is sorry ass to Soulcalibur and never comeback... and he can take Victor with him.

[Temjin Prime]

I think it's balanced. Personally It's launch punishable. you can also bait him and then lauch him again. I also think yoshimitsu needs it as his defense tools aren't great.

Example, he has no down jab in sword stance so you can somewhat pressure him easily. Also he has only ONE armored move that is really slow. Yoshimitsu's mix up game is really not that great.

[T1g3r]

its strong, but has always been there, so skill issue

Originally posted by PKMJ:

Same as you, Yoshi should take is sorry ass to Soulcalibur and never comeback... and he can take Victor with him.

they rather ban u from the game instead of removing yoshimitsu from tekken lmao

[AGA | prinnyuber]

An indecent exposure and exhibition charge should be issued to Yoshi! Quick! Whats the number for 911 again?

[Backburner]

Not worth it unless activated in heat. It's a risky move so you have to have really good timing to execute it. And you can easily lose matches with it if the timing is not right.

[Boss]

Feels a bit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ until you learn the matchup, because you adapt to Yoshi more than possibly any character, but it's fine. I've beaten many Yoshis who just refuse to stop flashing no matter how many times they get launched for it. Most will be pretty predictable with it, so now I'm actually impressed when a Yoshi player uses it properly (which is sparingly)

I hate the sword sweep a lot more. I've known it's unblockable forever, but my muscle memory still has me duck sometimes. It's even worse online, since lag is unavoidable, I've even gotten clipped by that after inputing a lowcrush, but before it was active. I don't know if anyone's ever gotten hit by that and said "Damn, nice one"

[Sirlion]

It's alright. You need to learn the moves he can flash you off of so you can bait him out and launch his ass. It's -16, play smart and you'll win. I much prefer Yoshis who spam flash mindlessly and get what they deserve rather than Yoshis who dont use it unless they know it'll hit

[Omnislash]

I think it's broken tbh. Its completly destroy some character gameplan like Reina, Lars and most stance based char that get + frame and ''mix you up'' from there. For example as Reina, if I do FF2 sen, I can't avoid being flashed, even If I don't press any button. Flash option select my entire stance.

If I play Alisa and punish yoshi with a 1,1, he can also option select my chainsaw, so my best bet is not to press anything. But then yoshi get to do what he please all the time, even doing slow move like sweep or whatever when he is -5 . Flash feels really unfair. and don't get me started on the spin, this move is incredibly broken and can make you whiff even when yoshi is at -7 or so.

[son]

it's fair. it exposes the whole play style this game encourages. which people can't handle. if you bait it out it's a full launch.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by blackzephyers:

I think it’s a BS move in this game personally. I want to know your thoughts

Yoshi is bs personified. Always has been. And thats ok.

Worse is that they gave him 50/50s and frames on top of that.

Hes not the only overtuned char though. Lets pray for nerfs for all offenders.

[Arbor]

Originally posted by / / /:

it's fair. it exposes the whole play style this game encourages. which people can't handle. if you bait it out it's a full launch.

Which is my problem with it. He’s the only character that has a defensive move of this caliber in a game that pushes aggression.

People in this thread are saying to bait this move and launch it yet this move works in the middle of strings, on throws, on heat smashes. So Yoshimitsu has the option of being aggressive as much as they want and can nullify your offense with one move. Not to mention that it counter hits.

Anyway it’s good to know that most people think it’s balanced. One less problem with the game then.

[JyoKun]

Originally posted by blackzephyers:

Originally posted by / / /:

it's fair. it exposes the whole play style this game encourages. which people can't handle. if you bait it out it's a full launch.

Which is my problem with it. He’s the only character that has a defensive move of this caliber in a game that pushes aggression.

People in this thread are saying to bait this move and launch it yet this move works in the middle of strings, on throws, on heat smashes. So Yoshimitsu has the option of being aggressive as much as they want and can nullify your offense with one move. Not to mention that it counter hits.

Anyway it’s good to know that most people think it’s balanced. One less problem with the game then.

Don't think that people who write here is the majority. As always, the majority is silent.

[Crackless]

balanced or not, yoshi players have to be careful not to spam it just ebcause it works 90% of the time in this game. 10 matches where u just can spam the button, literally nonstop and get free launches because people only spam flowcharts. the move gets really good and actually satisfieng to use once you meet someone that knows what it is an does. op vs lazy players and balanced vs bettere to good players is my take.

[Jincel #1]

It is launch punishable and worse than every single game previously by miles.

Issue is not his flash it his dumb ability to setup OB 50/50 that tracks from range 3 for 0 reason.

His Poison breath recovery is insane and needs a thesis of explanation on how stupid the move is.

etc.

Yoshi went from Trickster to just forcing you to hold B, wait for him to do dumb stuff, punish him, immediately block and wait for him to do dumb stuff again.

Do not KBD or Dash block because you will get caught.

Do not SS for same reason.

10/10 design.

Boring asf to fight against, easy too.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

How to say: no I don't know how to press f then b to bait out on reaction with my character animations.