Will I get banned? Steam Button Mapping

[kujomon]

I use steam controller mapping to bind left stick right to the button next to my right punch on my leverless snackbox micro. This makes KBD and PEWGF alot easier for me because I can click right and then just down+2+right again but with my right hand for 2+right input. Think this is bannable or considered cheating/macroing?


FINAL NOTE TO "ANSWER" THE THREAD BELOW (TRIGGER WARNING!!!):

If it works in the in game Tekken button mapping it is fair game. It works for keyboard but not controllers.
Having left stick right on another button did not work for my snackbox micro without using the steam button mapping because it recognized the input as a controller and not KBM.
You will probably NOT get banned for button mapping your controller with the steam settings like I did but, you most likely won't be able to play locals with those settings, actually almost 100% positive you won't be able to.

However if I could go on a little(long) rant...
I'm pretty certain this button mapping that kbm players have access to would be extremely useful on any console controller or fightstick as well... as moving a joystick is a lot less precise and quick than rolling your fingers on asd or double tapping "d" for forward. I could see another left stick forward bind coming in handy on stick or pad for sure and wouldn't complain if controller players in lower ranks than me can now space better with KBD, hit electrics more consistently, or double tap forward with two binds for f... It's like they will eventually get to that point by putting 2000 hours in Tekken but is there really any fun or point to go through all of that besides the fact that older tekken veterans were forced to learn the hard and "legit:" way?
But hey, thats just me.. I was called a cheater by multiple people for even asking this question, just for us to find out it works on keyboard in game (which is pretty much just a better snackbox micro with 10x more buttons!!!) HAHA!


Is this intentional by the develepors? Don't ask me... But IN MY OPINION, if it works for keyboard and mouse warriors such as myself, why not use it on other devices? I saw this exact same thing happen with Apex Legends where every PC controller player used steam input mapping to bind multiple shortcuts that us keyboard players had access too such as scroll wheel to jump and much more, the tech that came from it was just not possible without it which is how I got the idea in the first place. No one really complained(at least I didn't) because it just made the fun "technical" things a little more consistent for the controller players like wall jumping and air strafing that I was doing every single time because of my input device choice. I could say the same about fortnite when they gave scroll wheel reset to controller players and double edit binds.
EVEN ON ROCKET LEAGUE everyone and their mother uses multiple of the same binds with the in game settings to do insane mechanics such as tornado spin with air roll right/left on another bind which frees up your air mobility to new extremes. Actually in Rocket league the in game bind is pretty much a macro, its air roll and a directional input, equal to having a directional input and a face button in Tekken.

TLDR:
Dorya!

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

From EVO General rules:

All macros available via the in-game controller configuration menu are allowed.

Hardware programmable input entry, rapid-fire, modifiers, macros, or other hardware assisted mechanisms are prohibited.

[kujomon]

Originally posted by C1REX:

I can’t think how it can be banned.
It’s similar to using this controller:

https://youtu.be/lJ6rwxTiv4k?si=VuZs-9BvS4ikrIBt

https://youtu.be/CaAlgs4O8lw?si=wA9sb22BZGfmHhta

https://youtu.be/_OcecoQ35Jg?si=86-osQVJnqXL5Ovx

Thank you! I must say I definitley don't think it should be in the game, but there is no way these high level mishima players are hitting PEWGF so consistently without using this trick.

[kujomon]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

From EVO General rules:

All macros available via the in-game controller configuration menu are allowed.

Hardware programmable input entry, rapid-fire, modifiers, macros, or other hardware assisted mechanisms are prohibited.

but you can map movement binds with the in game button mapping, not just with steam input. its just how my computer reads my controller.

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

If you can do the bindings in the tekken menu- it is fair game.

If you need to use ANYTHING ELSE (including Steam) to change movement directions or copy any movement commands to ANOTHER button it is not allowed.

[kujomon]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

If you can do the bindings in the tekken menu- it is fair game.

If you need to use ANYTHING ELSE (including Steam) to change movement directions or copy any movement commands to ANOTHER button it is not allowed.

Ok well Ill try and fix it so I can do it with the in game button mapping

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

But the issue is having more than one


If you are just moving right (for example) with that bound face button and it is removed from any other interface then fine- But that is not what I am hearing from your statements. And if you have more than one movement key bound for the same direction = cheating.

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

I don't think you can.

[Pasta]

Originally posted by kujomon:

Originally posted by Pasta:

yes

source? Ive seen people do it with the in game tekken button mapping options but it doesnt work with my controller

Huh? Oh sorry i only saw your title and replied yes. Idk whats the topic is about.

[kujomon]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

But the issue is having more than one


If you are just moving right (for example) with that bound face button and it is removed from any other interface then fine- But that is not what I am hearing from your statements. And if you have more than one movement key bound for the same direction = cheating.

Hmm ok. I appreciate the responses.

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

BOOM

"2. The maximum amount of directional command input is four (4), and it is prohibited to put the same command into multiple buttons. For example, a player cannot assign the same directional command in two (2) different buttons."

We believe that this ruling is attempting to prevent diagonal binds and doubling-up on the same bind (similar to rule #1).

The Cross|Up is legal because it does not have diagonal binds and does not double-up on the same bind - its two sets of directions are separated by Left Stick binds and DPad binds, similar to a DualShock. (A DualShock has two up directions, but because they are separated on different types of binds, it is legal)

"3. When assigning a directional command to a button, instead of a Directional Button on DUALSHOCK™, directional lever or analog stick, it is called a move button. A controller can have both move button and a lever at simultaneously, however, the controller must give up the corresponding input on the lever. For example, if a player assigns the upward action into a move button, such player must lose the upward input with lever."

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

Basically- It is only allowed if the tekken binding menu allows both movement and stick cardinal directions to be in-use at the same time. Which I don't think is allowed.

[kujomon]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

Basically- It is only allowed if the tekken binding menu allows both movement and stick cardinal directions to be in-use at the same time. Which I don't think is allowed.

Got it, it is still a bit confusing because it seems they don't really enforce these rules or clarfiy too well, and people get away with it anyways. If it doesnt let me rebind to both dpad movement and a left stick movement in the tekken menu i'll get rid of it. Thanks again, I'm not trying to be a cheater or cut corners unfairly which is why I asked.

[Sirlion]

lmao what a skrub, mishima players man

[Hex:WifeCheatedOnMe]

You wont get banned.

Ranked isnt EVO
But its cheating and kinda wack

[Sirlion]

Yea honestly I'm not very good but the knowledge that when I go into ranked and I try my best and then some ♥♥♥♥ like this on the other side does PEWGF with shortcuts makes me cringe and lose faith in humanity
How did you even post this with a straight face