Alisa nerfs when?

[76561198297240621]

just kinda scratching my bald spot and wonderign when they'll be playing tekken like the rest of us
until then i wont be buying.

[Sirlion]

Please dont buy.

[76561198297240621]

Originally posted by Sirlion:

Please dont buy.

Why are you being rude to me

[Sirlion]

I'm not. Where have I been rude

[76561198297240621]

Originally posted by Sirlion:

I'm not. Where have I been rude

You told me not to buy the game, and now you're feigning ignorance in what I would describe as bad faith.

[SimplyBenjamen]

Alisa main here, she is not as strong as you think and her gameplan is pretty much getting whiff punish and button mash punishing when not your turn. It's really just people being upset by knowledge checks that she has that the whole cast has some far more like King and Dragunov.

[天佑中共🐥the strongest]

shes balanced

[Cheez3]

alisa isnt that broken if u control her, u let her get space, u ded

[Arbor]

She doesn’t really have anything that’s broken. She’s just very annoying. She can mix you up from across the screen but you can side step. She has chainsaws but that’s no different than anyone else’s 50-50s.

[teroli]

I think the issue with characters like Alisa, Pre-nerf Azucena, Victor, Feng, and many more in T8 is that a literal chimpanzee could pilot these characters and still get a pretty insane reward. Then you have characters like Bryan and Steve that are literally 10x harder than Alisa and yet are so much worse (especially for Steve). I understand that this is the way that it will always be; you can't always have the characters with the highest execution also be in the top tiers, but I think that's where the frustration comes from mainly.

[Airlick]

Originally posted by teroli:

I think the issue with characters like Alisa, Pre-nerf Azucena, Victor, Feng, and many more in T8 is that a literal chimpanzee could pilot these characters and still get a pretty insane reward. Then you have characters like Bryan and Steve that are literally 10x harder than Alisa and yet are so much worse (especially for Steve). I understand that this is the way that it will always be; you can't always have the characters with the highest execution also be in the top tiers, but I think that's where the frustration comes from mainly.

Alisa is not that easy, especially compared to likes of Azucena or Victor (or Law, for that matter). Massive move list and most of her good moves are pretty risky. It gets bad when you play vs someone who actually knows Alisa.

Which is not that many people, and I can understand she must be really frustrating to play against if you don't know the matchup, but you really can't compare her to characters who literally get away with using 5 moves ad infinitum, like Victor and Law.

I'm not saying she's particularly hard to play, but she's not a braindead character like some others.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

people cry about Alisa while Yoshimitsu is twice as broken.
love the Teggn community.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

I think you need to explain what about her you want nerfed.

Chip damage she can only do in stance and in heat? Sure, after they nerf the chip damage Leroy, Bears, Jun, Hwoarang, Kazuya, Victor, Nina and a few others do first, because that's supposed to be her main gimmick to the point where she gets nothing extra in heat, the 2nd worst, if not the worst heat smash as balance aspects, but somehow she's still not the best at dealing chip damage.

Her flying from afar? Side walk left on reaction, maybe lab the timing a bit in the lab.

Like, you need to tell us what you want nerfed for her.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

I think you need to explain what about her you want nerfed.

Chip damage she can only do in stance and in heat? Sure, after they nerf the chip damage Leroy, Bears, Jun, Hwoarang, Kazuya, Victor, Nina and a few others do first, because that's supposed to be her main gimmick to the point where she gets nothing extra in heat, the 2nd worst, if not the worst heat smash as balance aspects, but somehow she's still not the best at dealing chip damage.

Her flying from afar? Side walk left on reaction, maybe lab the timing a bit in the lab.

Like, you need to tell us what you want nerfed for her.

let's nerf her tracking- oh wait, her tracking is the worst in the entire game.
let's nerf her launchers- oh wait, her launchers are really bad.
let's nerf her pokes- oh wait, Bryan just got buffed and has some of the best launchers, and best reach, and best damage output in the entire game and a guaranteed unblockable oki at the wall.

Yoshimitsu exists.
i will never understand why people complain about Alisa but ignore Yoshimitsu entirely.
he is one of the most broken characters in the game, ever since launch.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

I think you need to explain what about her you want nerfed.

Chip damage she can only do in stance and in heat? Sure, after they nerf the chip damage Leroy, Bears, Jun, Hwoarang, Kazuya, Victor, Nina and a few others do first, because that's supposed to be her main gimmick to the point where she gets nothing extra in heat, the 2nd worst, if not the worst heat smash as balance aspects, but somehow she's still not the best at dealing chip damage.

Her flying from afar? Side walk left on reaction, maybe lab the timing a bit in the lab.

Like, you need to tell us what you want nerfed for her.

let's nerf her tracking- oh wait, her tracking is the worst in the entire game.
let's nerf her launchers- oh wait, her launchers are really bad.
let's nerf her pokes- oh wait, Bryan just got buffed and has some of the best launchers, and best reach, and best damage output in the entire game and a guaranteed unblockable oki at the wall.

Yoshimitsu exists.
i will never understand why people complain about Alisa but ignore Yoshimitsu entirely.
he is one of the most broken characters in the game, ever since launch.

My guess?

Because Yoshimitsu is one of those characters that they also don't know the matchup of, but since he's so complicated, they chug if off to "too complicated, I'll never learn the matchup anyway", while on the flipside, Alisa isn't complicated, so it's actually pretty easy to learn her matchup, thus that excuse doesn't fly, so rather than them learn the matchup, they just cry.

[teroli]

I am really not sure where this completely unfounded hatred of yoshimitsu comes from? Yoshimitsu is pretty good in t8 but he is pretty complicated and for sure one of the more difficult characters to play in tekken 8. I would never say that he is "op" at all