Dragunov is still broken

[Mrpoopybutthole]

Still has mid evasive launcher for no reason and still has insane damage for 0 effort.

Nice patch!

[Pelikan]

To be honest, I respect your opinion but I don't think that he is broken anymore. Yes he is still really strong ( due to amazing moveset) and still top tier however he has been nerfed quite a bit damage wise :

- Hatchet kick is now super punishable (-31 on block) , has worse frames on hit even though it is sill +3 (which means if he jabs immediately after, he can be powercrushed or heat bursted) but it is very risky to use now. Drag players will use d2 more often which is less damage.

- Wr2 which is a key move for him has been nerfed, slightly worse damage, worse frames ( now +4, which means if he jabs immediately after that, he can now be parried).
Same for his right kick 4 which took a 5 damage nerf. They also nerfed damage on his tracking kick df3+4 a little.

- But especially his combo damage is now lower.

All in all, for those who expected him to be nerfed to the ground, yeah it is not the case at all but I think that damage wise, he doesn't stand out as much anymore (that was the main problem with him IMHO).

[PremiumG98]

his damage is pretty average now and his backswing blow is -15 ob, I suggest you getting out of green ranks before posting

[Mrpoopybutthole]

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

his damage is pretty average now and his backswing blow is -15 ob, I suggest you getting out of green ranks before posting

Im nearly bushing lmao fk outta here

[PremiumG98]

Originally posted by Mrpoopybutthole:

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

his damage is pretty average now and his backswing blow is -15 ob, I suggest you getting out of green ranks before posting

Im nearly bushing lmao fk outta here

damn, bushin is a joke in this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ greeniest rank take ever

[Mrpoopybutthole]

Originally posted by Pelikan:

To be honest, I respect your opinion but I don't think that he is broken anymore. Yes he is still really strong ( due to amazing moveset) and still top tier however he has been nerfed quite a bit damage wise :

- Hatchet kick is now super punishable (-31 on block) , has worse frames on hit even though it is sill +3 (which means if he jabs immediately after, he can be powercrushed or heat bursted) but it is very risky to use now. Drag players will use d2 more often which is less damage.

- Wr2 which is a key move for him has been nerfed, slightly worse damage, worse frames ( now +4, which means if he jabs immediately after that, he can now be parried).
Same for his right kick 4 which took a 5 damage nerf. They also nerfed damage on his tracking kick df3+4 a little.

- But especially his combo damage is now lower.

All in all, for those who expected him to be nerfed to the ground, yeah it is not the case at all but I think that damage wise, he doesn't stand out as much anymore (that was the main problem with him IMHO).

Okay, sad to still see him be so insanely good tho, after 3 months of 90% dragunov matches I would have liked to see him require far more effort :/

[Mrpoopybutthole]

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

Originally posted by Mrpoopybutthole:

Im nearly bushing lmao fk outta here

damn, bushin is a joke in this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ greeniest rank take ever

Jesus you are a delusional keyboard warrior

[PremiumG98]

Originally posted by Mrpoopybutthole:

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

damn, bushin is a joke in this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ greeniest rank take ever

Jesus you are a delusional keyboard warrior

yeah right, its not like ranked is filled with carried scrubs who know nothing about this game///

[Zagryzaec]

Originally posted by Pelikan:

To be honest, I respect your opinion but I don't think that he is broken anymore. Yes he is still really strong ( due to amazing moveset) and still top tier however he has been nerfed quite a bit damage wise :

- Hatchet kick is now super punishable (-31 on block) , has worse frames on hit even though it is sill +3 (which means if he jabs immediately after, he can be powercrushed or heat bursted) but it is very risky to use now. Drag players will use d2 more often which is less damage.

- Wr2 which is a key move for him has been nerfed, slightly worse damage, worse frames ( now +4, which means if he jabs immediately after that, he can now be parried).
Same for his right kick 4 which took a 5 damage nerf. They also nerfed damage on his tracking kick df3+4 a little.

- But especially his combo damage is now lower.

All in all, for those who expected him to be nerfed to the ground, yeah it is not the case at all but I think that damage wise, he doesn't stand out as much anymore (that was the main problem with him IMHO).

He was never broken he was well designed, people just want to play their xiaoyou/Jin and win with no effort vs character that completely unplayable like in Tekken 7.

[AvidExpert]

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

his damage is pretty average now and his backswing blow is -15 ob, I suggest you getting out of green ranks before posting

What rank are you btw?

[AvidExpert]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

Originally posted by Pelikan:

To be honest, I respect your opinion but I don't think that he is broken anymore. Yes he is still really strong ( due to amazing moveset) and still top tier however he has been nerfed quite a bit damage wise :

- Hatchet kick is now super punishable (-31 on block) , has worse frames on hit even though it is sill +3 (which means if he jabs immediately after, he can be powercrushed or heat bursted) but it is very risky to use now. Drag players will use d2 more often which is less damage.

- Wr2 which is a key move for him has been nerfed, slightly worse damage, worse frames ( now +4, which means if he jabs immediately after that, he can now be parried).
Same for his right kick 4 which took a 5 damage nerf. They also nerfed damage on his tracking kick df3+4 a little.

- But especially his combo damage is now lower.

All in all, for those who expected him to be nerfed to the ground, yeah it is not the case at all but I think that damage wise, he doesn't stand out as much anymore (that was the main problem with him IMHO).

He was never broken he was well designed, people just want to play their xiaoyou/Jin and win with no effort vs character that completely unplayable like in Tekken 7.

Drag a long time player/Tourny winner was unplayable? Got Buffs massively and even more unplayable?

Zag get back to your cave

[Cam]

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

Originally posted by Mrpoopybutthole:

Im nearly bushing lmao fk outta here

damn, bushin is a joke in this game, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ greeniest rank take ever

World record goalpost movement achieved in this thread, nicely done.

[Boss]

Originally posted by D2 = Failed Electric.:

Originally posted by PremiumR98:

his damage is pretty average now and his backswing blow is -15 ob, I suggest you getting out of green ranks before posting

What rank are you btw?

Fujin Kazuya and win-quitting Fujin Dragunov, apparently, lol

[ShadowSplit]

In general, nothing much have changed. He's too simple and too powerful for us to feel his nerf.
This patch only fixed few things, but nothing will change. Maybe Leroy will be more used, but all prevously high usage characters will be used again.

[DanikSlr]

git gud Saucy_G Kazuya

[Pelikan]

Originally posted by Zagryzaec:

He was never broken he was well designed, people just want to play their xiaoyou/Jin and win with no effort vs character that completely unplayable like in Tekken 7.

For the record, it is not me who put you a laughing emote on your post.

I disagree with you on this, tournaments and online stats tell a different story but we already had this discussion before ;)

I prefer the current Dragunov than before the patch personally, if it was up to me I would have nerfed him a little more to be honest :))

As for the retar.d who put a clown on the most informative post in this thread, thank you for making this forum a better place :)