Is Blue the new Red ?

[kaizokun]

I'm in the blue ranks right now, my matchup knowledge is closed to zero and I have not a single clue how to deal with this or that, I just use my legacy skills, Korean backdash, spacing, poking, frames traps, mix ups, etc. and also the new overpowered mechanisms.
I remember that in tekken 7 the players had a little execution at this level. Don't get me wrong, I also come across players who have execution, but I also come across a lot of players who do absolutely nothing, turtles, or mashers who take a good part of your life bar with heat burst, 50/50, heat smash, rage art and all the cheap attacks provided by tekken 8.
What ranks do the blue ranks of tekken 7 correspond to in tekken 8?

[MxWu1337-bilibili]

I have the opposite experience.
I'm Bushin/Kishin now.
I feel like everyone in t8 can do electrics from Ruler on.
Be it Hwo, Mishima or Jin.
Everyone is KBDing and don't get started with Nina and her glitching.

I was TK in T7 and I'm having huge issues with staying Kising in T8.
People are definitely stronger.

[kaizokun]

Originally posted by MxWu1337:

I have the opposite experience.
I'm Bushin/Kishin now.
I feel like everyone in t8 can do electrics from Ruler on.
Be it Hwo, Mishima or Jin.
Everyone is KBDing and don't get started with Nina and her glitching.

I was TK in T7 and I'm having huge issues with staying Kising in T8.
People are definitely stronger.

You're joking right, maybe you're playing in another universe than mine 😂

[Azarad0]

lol this game is a mashers fest got to fujin with king bear in mind king is the slowest char i play defensenly and take my time, but against mashers reinas howarangs and eddys? yeah i cant do ♥♥♥♥, this game is clearly for casuals. i remember T7 taking more skill than this game, the fact that you can just press 1 button to do a eddy combo is ridiculous

[MxWu1337-bilibili]

Originally posted by monsio.b:

Originally posted by MxWu1337:

I have the opposite experience.
I'm Bushin/Kishin now.
I feel like everyone in t8 can do electrics from Ruler on.
Be it Hwo, Mishima or Jin.
Everyone is KBDing and don't get started with Nina and her glitching.

I was TK in T7 and I'm having huge issues with staying Kising in T8.
People are definitely stronger.

You're joking right, maybe you're playing in another universe then mine 😂

I play on Asian servers... the experience might differ.

[AvidExpert]

Originally posted by monsio.b:

I'm in the blue ranks right now, my matchup knowledge is closed to zero and I have not a single clue how to deal with this or that, I just use my legacy skills, Korean backdash, spacing, poking, frames traps, mix ups, etc. and also the new overpowered mechanisms.
I remember that in tekken 7 the players had a little execution at this level. Don't get me wrong, I also come across players who have execution, but I also come across a lot of players who do absolutely nothing, turtles, or mashers who take a good part of your life bar with heat burst, 50/50, heat smash, rage art and all the cheap attacks provided by tekken 8.
What ranks do the blue ranks of tekken 7 correspond to in tekken 8?

Blue is the new Red yes.

No jokes.

Emp is around previous Fujin/Raijin.

[AvidExpert]

Originally posted by MxWu1337:

I have the opposite experience.
I'm Bushin/Kishin now.
I feel like everyone in t8 can do electrics from Ruler on.
Be it Hwo, Mishima or Jin.
Everyone is KBDing and don't get started with Nina and her glitching.

I was TK in T7 and I'm having huge issues with staying Kising in T8.
People are definitely stronger.

Who did u play in t7?

[kaizokun]

Originally posted by MxWu1337:

Originally posted by monsio.b:

You're joking right, maybe you're playing in another universe then mine 😂

I play on Asian servers... the experience might differ.

0h interesting, so maybe the level is higher there. Here in Europe blue ranks is noobyland. But it's normal the Tekken team gave everything to mediocre players to return the match in a blink 😂🤯🤡

[LonesomeSparrow]

I really don't get this arrogant attidute. If you're above blue, that's great but looking at the t8 rank distribution that was based on the hundreds of thousands of replay datasets and ranked leaderboards, blue ranks were like the top 5% of players or something like that.
obviously there is still a large gap between a god of destruction and fujin but let's not pretend that getting to fujin isn't an accomplishment all things considered.

[Cam]

Originally posted by LonesomeSparrow:

I really don't get this arrogant attidute. If you're above blue, that's great but looking at the t8 rank distribution that was based on the hundreds of thousands of replay datasets and ranked leaderboards, blue ranks were like the top 5% of players or something like that.
obviously there is still a large gap between a god of destruction and fujin but let's not pretend that getting to fujin isn't an accomplishment all things considered.

No matter what rank is brought up in a discussion there's going to be someone who goes "Oh, that's a noob rank." It'll come from a ranked addict with no tourney experience, of course.

[kaizokun]

Originally posted by LonesomeSparrow:

I really don't get this arrogant attidute. If you're above blue, that's great but looking at the t8 rank distribution that was based on the hundreds of thousands of replay datasets and ranked leaderboards, blue ranks were like the top 5% of players or something like that.
obviously there is still a large gap between a god of destruction and fujin but let's not pretend that getting to fujin isn't an accomplishment all things considered.

I'm sorry if it hurts the ego of some players, but it's a fact
that the level has dropped drastically compared to Tekken 7 to reach the blue ranks...
This is simply due to the fact that the game has been made easier to a point where you no longer have to learn anything to win, it has become extremely easy to turn around a match. I come across a lot of players who don't know much apart from combos, heat and hitting armor shots.
The Tekken team did this on purpose I guess to flatter the ego of players who weren't too invested in learning the game, now they are happy, they think they are very good.
But don't be fooled, rank doesn't mean much in Tekken at this point, and in the long run the gap will be well defined between players who have made the effort to improve, learn the matchups and work their executions, and those who knowledge check their opponent and abuse the brainless mechanics that the game offers them.

[C1REX]

If T7 red is T8 blue then at what rank old blue players are?
Gods?

[99xvkJe66]

Yes it is. Yellow ranks are the new teal ranks since demotion starts from here, the rest of ranks below are nothing. Orange/Red is the new Green ranks, Ruler ranks are the new yellow/orange and blue ranks (fujin/raijin) is red/purple from tekken 7 and then kishin/bushin and above is players who had blue ranks and above in Tekken 7 at least. But quite more easier.
Less ranks. All sorts of skill levels mixed in blue ranks. There's tons of spammers like Jun, Victors, Azucenas, Dragunov, who have never played tekken 7 before.
I say for me Kishin and Bushin players, at least those not playing Stier broken characters play extremely well, they are talented. And when I check their profiles they usually have 1k-3k hours on Tekken 7/ were god ranks.
All new players you see in yellow or orange ranks at the moment will come to blue ranks eventually, ANYONE can reach blue ranks now if they play for few months, that easily. Meanwhile in Tekken 7 that was a high rank most had never reached unless by savescumming etc.
It is a flaw with the ranking system. In Tekken 7 you usually fought of your same rank right? It doesn't make any sense now. The old ranked system was far better, once you ranked up you truly improved. Here it is meaningless.

The blue ranks will become way more populated, even tekken king and above will be so populated because of how easy the ranking system is.

[99xvkJe66]

Originally posted by LonesomeSparrow:

I really don't get this arrogant attidute. If you're above blue, that's great but looking at the t8 rank distribution that was based on the hundreds of thousands of replay datasets and ranked leaderboards, blue ranks were like the top 5% of players or something like that.
obviously there is still a large gap between a god of destruction and fujin but let's not pretend that getting to fujin isn't an accomplishment all things considered.

That was only at the start like what, few weeks after game released, by the end of the year the blue ranks will be full of newbies/very populated. lol Not sure how UNCLEAR it is to you, how stupid and easier this ranking system is.
As Harada pointed out, Kids these days cry easily over demoting, so that's the reason it was made easier.

[kaizokun]

Originally posted by C1REX:

If T7 red is T8 blue then at what rank old blue players are?
Gods?

The title is a lil bit provocative I admit it. But it(s not far from the reality.
I trully believe that Fujin in T8 is the equivalent of Suzaku in T7.
Actually they're both the 16th rank starting from brawler.

[99xvkJe66]

This is what a good ranking system should be, found it on reddit, stupid MS Paint crap but it's infinitely far better than the current casual easy mode garbage ranking system.
DEMOTION BEFORE WARRIOR, fight against the same rank, gain less points, lose less points, unless you are at a winstreak, more difficult ranking system, more ranks:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmore-ranks-demotion-at-fighter-not-warrior-rank-v0-7hgmue0nwwrc1.png%3Fwidth%3D1228%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd30d5063e34123075700131b9023ec6ad1120506

As another player pointed out:

Gap between Good and Bad players can never be shrunk in T7 by stupid mechanics, only by actual gameplay.

T7 didn't tryhard to appeal to casuals, you either learn the hard way or you'll get stomped everytime. You were gonna be forever at teal or green ranks, never able to make it even at red ranks in a month, maybe not even a year or more. So it is what it is. They made it easier. And it sucks. Now every single new player who is orange/red in tekken 8 will be blue rank in less than a year, just a few months depending how much they play, I bet around 2-3 months from now, from the ones currently playing.