heat system is bad

[jojokaizer]

there is no reason why heat dash or heat smash are both plus frames and not punishable. forced 50/50 every match is pretty dumb. not to mention there is no system to count it. usually these systems have some kind of combo breaker or burst that gets you out of those situations. so not sure why tekken decided to add a 2d game mechanic of crazy aggressive plus frame rush attacks and decided to add a heat counter..... the game can still be fun, but it's just kinda dumbed down.

[Geralt of Rivia]

because it is a primary direction of this game to force people to play aggressively rather than turtle and wait for whiff punish like previous game.

[jojokaizer]

Originally posted by Geralt of Rivia:

because it is a primary direction of this game to force people to play aggressively rather than turtle and wait for whiff punish like previous game.

and that's fine, but that shouldn't be the main focus. no one likes 50/50 to deaths, it's just stupid. you can rush and not be gifted so many plus frames for no reason. watching the game is also way more boring now too. top players are just spamming heat frames and are literally just guessing. it's not healthy for the game.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Not to mention people get super aggro and cheat when you start CH the opponent's over and over and then the game gets strangely laggy and for instance King magically can bypass grab breaks, and continue busting you to death..

Meanwhile replaying the same thing offline breaks the grab just fine..

Despite in the replay the same damn button was hit just as much online..

so ya Heat needs some toning down cause people are salty as thieves even when you can CH and defend it all.

[Hidebehind]

There was already a move in Tekken 7 that became Heat in Tekken 8. No one wanted to use RA, everyone used RD. So the developer literally gave the players what they wanted.
People who complain about Heat either never played Tekken 7 or pressed random buttons.

[PremiumG98]

heat dash being +5 ob isnt too bad since you still have a bunch of options to counter some moves, maybe make it +4 or +3 instead, but it dealing 20 or 25 chip damage is insane, and they should remove +17 from heat engagers completely

[Spooky7.62]

Id rather heat just have a heat dash rather than a smash but this isnt the case.

[=\[P]/=]

its a tool to reduce skill gap
bcos its no counter play other than take the gamble and bet with your 40% hp

[Be_Proud (Heritage)]

Well, I say it's good. Fighting games were always about rock-paper-scissors in the end of the day (with risk mitigation), but in a game like Tekken, having something that forces aggression in a largely defensive game is different and from my point, I feel players are just being nostalgic of that slow-paced Tekken game-play.

[jojokaizer]

Originally posted by Be_Proud (Heritage):

Well, I say it's good. Fighting games were always about rock-paper-scissors in the end of the day (with risk mitigation), but in a game like Tekken, having something that forces aggression in a largely defensive game is different and from my point, I feel players are just being nostalgic of that slow-paced Tekken game-play.

rock, paper, scissors isn't 50/50 every time lol...

[jojokaizer]

Originally posted by Hidebehind:

There was already a move in Tekken 7 that became Heat in Tekken 8. No one wanted to use RA, everyone used RD. So the developer literally gave the players what they wanted.
People who complain about Heat either never played Tekken 7 or pressed random buttons.

except rage drives are not usable at any time the player wants, it's only usable when you are in rage. this is a HUGE difference from being able to use it any time you want.

[Castyles]

Heat is fine. Rage Arts suck.

[Braxton414]

Originally posted by jojokaizer:

Originally posted by Geralt of Rivia:

because it is a primary direction of this game to force people to play aggressively rather than turtle and wait for whiff punish like previous game.

and that's fine, but that shouldn't be the main focus. no one likes 50/50 to deaths, it's just stupid. you can rush and not be gifted so many plus frames for no reason. watching the game is also way more boring now too. top players are just spamming heat frames and are literally just guessing. it's not healthy for the game.

I'm with you on this. I play Lee and even he has a 50/50 game now. I remember in 7 really having a blast learning how to whiff punish or becoming really good at low parrying for a good combo. Every character pretty much fights the same just different move sets. I don't understand why every character has every tool.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Braxton414:

Originally posted by jojokaizer:

and that's fine, but that shouldn't be the main focus. no one likes 50/50 to deaths, it's just stupid. you can rush and not be gifted so many plus frames for no reason. watching the game is also way more boring now too. top players are just spamming heat frames and are literally just guessing. it's not healthy for the game.

I'm with you on this. I play Lee and even he has a 50/50 game now. I remember in 7 really having a blast learning how to whiff punish or becoming really good at low parrying for a good combo. Every character pretty much fights the same just different move sets. I don't understand why every character has every tool.

cause they rushed this game is why .. this is tekken minus the arcade scene buffer.

[StRyK]

Originally posted by jojokaizer:

Originally posted by Be_Proud (Heritage):

Well, I say it's good. Fighting games were always about rock-paper-scissors in the end of the day (with risk mitigation), but in a game like Tekken, having something that forces aggression in a largely defensive game is different and from my point, I feel players are just being nostalgic of that slow-paced Tekken game-play.

rock, paper, scissors isn't 50/50 every time lol...

Always

[StRyK]

Originally posted by Castyles:

Heat is fine. Rage Arts suck.

Rage Art has been tested by Tekken 7. It is now a permanent Tekken mechanic that will always be there