Its not on Harada or Murray

[Vakula]

Bamco made bad business decisions, tried to make a Genshin Impact clone that bombed. Now Tekken 8 is a huge success, and in all likelihood Bamco execs are trying to use it to recover their losses. Thats why Battle Pass/ Store/ Monetization is taking top priority and bug fixes and basic balance comes second.

Harada most likely had no say in this. Bamco execs forced the Tekken team to do this crap. Not that it makes the state of the game any better.

I really like Tekken 8, and the current situation sucks, but we cant blame Harada for this - 99% it wasnt his call.

[Cheez3™]

ummmmmm, sounds nice, but he's the game director, unless he resigns his job, his opinion have weight in the game decisions.

[🔞𝕂𝔸𝕋𝔸ℕ𝔸🔞]

Originally posted by Cheez3:

ummmmmm, sounds nice, but he's the game director, unless he resigns his job, his opinion have weight in the game decisions.

^This

[AGA | prinnyuber]

I m getting creeped out. If it wasn't Harada or Murray, WHO WAS PHONE?! Seriously who was phone? Was it hyperrealistic? O.o

[Milkdust]

Originally posted by Vakula:

Bamco made bad business decisions, tried to make a Genshin Impact clone that bombed. Now Tekken 8 is a huge success, and in all likelihood Bamco execs are trying to use it to recover their losses. Thats why Battle Pass/ Store/ Monetization is taking top priority and bug fixes and basic balance comes second.

Harada most likely had no say in this. Bamco execs forced the Tekken team to do this crap. Not that it makes the state of the game any better.

I really like Tekken 8, and the current situation sucks, but we cant blame Harada for this - 99% it wasnt his call.

All these elements were planned and underway before the game launched. Harada and Murray were complicit in the bait-and-switch.

[Necropants]

I'm pretty sure at least Harada hates all this, in fact hes been on record out against many of the practises in gaming that are now common place. The bottom line is they are at the mercy of whoever hold's their paycheck.

But I wonder how many of you lost jobs in the last few years for refusing to support or submit to something far more egregious than whats happening here, cause I know I did.. Very few people are willing to give up their livelihoods to maintain their principles. welcome to the mental asylum of the milky way.

One thing I do blame murray for is this becoming a pure scissors paper rock game though..

[T1g3r]

they are part of this scam/ BS, no need to try coping or gas lighting

[Dangerous-Boy]

I just wait for the sale and for the beta testing to be over.

[yikes]

Source: Trust me bro

[Sirlion]

Originally posted by Vakula:

Bamco made bad business decisions, tried to make a Genshin Impact clone that bombed. Now Tekken 8 is a huge success, and in all likelihood Bamco execs are trying to use it to recover their losses. Thats why Battle Pass/ Store/ Monetization is taking top priority and bug fixes and basic balance comes second.

Harada most likely had no say in this. Bamco execs forced the Tekken team to do this crap. Not that it makes the state of the game any better.

I really like Tekken 8, and the current situation sucks, but we cant blame Harada for this - 99% it wasnt his call.

I see you have watched PhiDx video too

[StRyK]

Originally posted by Necropants:

I'm pretty sure at least Harada hates all this, in fact hes been on record out against many of the practises in gaming that are now common place. The bottom line is they are at the mercy of whoever hold's their paycheck.

But I wonder how many of you lost jobs in the last few years for refusing to support or submit to something far more egregious than whats happening here, cause I know I did.. Very few people are willing to give up their livelihoods to maintain their principles. welcome to the mental asylum of the milky way.

One thing I do blame murray for is this becoming a pure scissors paper rock game though..

Now in 2024 we would make a tragedy out of the battle pass. I can just imagine how Harada doesn’t sleep at night, thinking about how he introduced the battle pass into the game. This is the most terrible crime in the world.

[StRyK]

Rofl

[Pasta]

Originally posted by Necropants:

But I wonder how many of you lost jobs in the last few years for refusing to support or submit to something far more egregious than whats happening here, cause I know I did..

If that's the case for Harada, then he should have been fired waaay earlier.
Talking ♥♥♥♥ to Sony and shift the no crossplay blame to Sony, must have made Sony executives mad. If any dev who's not at the stature of Harada said this, they would get obliterated by Sony.

Remember Harada blaming Denuvo for the performance issues in T7? He was among the first devs to call out Denuvo. It's even in Denuvo's wiki page.

Originally posted by Necropants:

I'm pretty sure at least Harada hates all this, in fact hes been on record out against many of the practises in gaming that are now common place. The bottom line is they are at the mercy of whoever hold's their paycheck.

That's a few example and like you said Harada is known to be against all these practices.
He was still getting his paycheck then. So what's changed? If he was so open about it, why he isn't saying anything now?
IMO its because time changed, and Harada saw the monetary potential which would be impossible in previous Tekken games. Time passed and they all got greedy.

[StRyK]

Originally posted by Pasta:

Originally posted by Necropants:

But I wonder how many of you lost jobs in the last few years for refusing to support or submit to something far more egregious than whats happening here, cause I know I did..

If that's the case for Harada, then he should have been fired waaay earlier.
Talking ♥♥♥♥ to Sony and shift the no crossplay blame to Sony, must have made Sony executives mad. If any dev who's not at the stature of Harada said this, they would get obliterated by Sony.

Remember Harada blaming Denuvo for the performance issues in T7? He was among the first devs to call out Denuvo. It's even in Denuvo's wiki page.

Originally posted by Necropants:

I'm pretty sure at least Harada hates all this, in fact hes been on record out against many of the practises in gaming that are now common place. The bottom line is they are at the mercy of whoever hold's their paycheck.

That's a few example and like you said Harada is known to be against all these practices.
He was still getting his paycheck then. So what's changed? If he was so open about it, why he isn't saying anything now?
IMO its because time changed, and Harada saw the monetary potential which would be impossible in previous Tekken games. Time passed and they all got greedy.

Did they work with enthusiasm before? Didn't they care about money?

[Grimp]

Originally posted by Vakula:

Bamco made bad business decisions, tried to make a Genshin Impact clone that bombed. Now Tekken 8 is a huge success, and in all likelihood Bamco execs are trying to use it to recover their losses. Thats why Battle Pass/ Store/ Monetization is taking top priority and bug fixes and basic balance comes second.

Harada most likely had no say in this. Bamco execs forced the Tekken team to do this crap. Not that it makes the state of the game any better.

I really like Tekken 8, and the current situation sucks, but we cant blame Harada for this - 99% it wasnt his call.

Are you talking about Blue Protocol? But the game hasn't been released yet, and you're saying that it already bombed? I remember seeing something similar in the comment section of a recent PhiDX video, but I haven't seen any evidence to back this up, so as far as I'm concerned this is pure speculation and little more than a rumour.

Now I do agree that these decisions likely weren't made by Harada and Murray, but by boardroom members looking to boost profit to make their shareholders happy. Whether or not Harada and Murray should have made some grandstand and possibly lost their jobs over it, I'll leave for others to argue about. I guess the real responsibility falls on the shoulder of either Bandai Namco CEO Nao Udagawa or possibly Bandai Namco Holdings chairman Mitsuaki Taguchi and president Masaru Kawaguchi, if they chose to tell Udagawa how to do his job.

EDIT: Ok, I looked into it a bit more: apparently, Blue Protocol has been released in Japan, and it hasn't done too well. They're still planning on a global release some time during Q2 this year. When Bandai Namco Holdings released their financial statement in February it showed that their digital profit was a fraction of what it had been and so their market stock nose dived. So they might be under pressure to get a better result.


Sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueProtocolPC/comments/1aun0ik/bandai_namco_blue_protocol_falls_significantly/
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/7832:TYO?window=1Y

I can't be arsed to read up on it any further, so I'll leave it at that.

[MAAFX]

nice try namco simp