DEVIL JIN SHOULD BE NERFED

[[RNGR|x|GORO]]

Devil Jin is broken, cheap and also super easy to play and has easy, hard hitting combos wtf. What is Namco thinking of??? Devil Jin is doing illegal things out there and he's getting away with it! This is unacceptable; I feel CRITICALLY UNSAFE AND VICTIMISED whenever I have to face a Devil Jin player.

First of all, his ff2 - a broken move. i15 and a mid heat engager?? What is this? No character has something like this wtf. Yeah its pushback got nerfed but this isn't enough. Jin has a ff2 as well but that's not broken at all, that's fine. Kazuya's ff2 has an extra extension on heat that takes a quarter of your health but that's okay. Reina's ff2 has a ton of mix ups if she transitions to Sentai. Solution? NERF DEVIL JIN'S FF2 IT'S BROKEN ASF despite being the weakest ff2 amongst all the Mishimas (but it's broken anyways). What I suggest to do is to make ff2 unsafe on block (-20 at least) and it should restore your opponent's health, at least up to 70%.

Second, DVJ's df1 is also broken because it has a follow up with 2 :O. How can this be possible??? Sometimes I really feel like I'm not playing TEKKEN AT ALL. Df1,2 is only guaranteed on counterhit, therefore, it's broken. First, it shouldn't hit at all and it shouldn't be safe on block either. The rest of df1s are totally fine, imo. Like Jin's df1,4 (natural combo and wallsplat on normal hit and safe on block, no problem on this). Asuka's df1,2 is -1 on block and does way more damage than DVJ's df1,2, so yeah, no problem on that either, totally fine. Dragunov's df1,4 is guaranteed on counterhit too and if only 4 hits from this string, in ch only, it launches. Seems balanced. But DVJ is the problem. Because why not?

Third, DVJ's u4 should ALSO BE NERFED TO DEATH. It shouldn't launch on normal hit (wtfffff, what dev thought that a hopkick should launch on normal hit????). It's -26 on block, sure, but it isn't enough. Because my 7 years old neighbour (just a casual player who told me that he'll drop the game like in a week or 2) can't punish that properly :(. This is OUTRAGEOUS. Tekken 8 should def be more ACCESSIBLE to newcomers (and newcummers). Solution? DVJ's u4 should be -90 on block, a text message should pop up on screen saying "LAUNCH PUNISH THAT PLEASE :C" and DVJ punishes himself automatically. This is because launch punishing a launch punishable attack in this game is just too demanding, especially to 1st dans who don't even know how to jab consistently and need special style just to move forwards. But this isn't fair, still, so I suggest that u4 should recover your opponent's health up to 100% (and if it's already 100% then give an extra health bar and heat meter for free).

Fourth, DVJ's Psycho Crusher is BROKEN. It has hard wall break!? Nanananana, that's too much. It isn't enough that his range and tracking got nerfed to death in patch 1.04. Nananana, because what character has a heat smash like this? Let's see Jun's heat smash for example: extremely long range and just i13 and super safe on block. Seems balanced, OBVIOUSLY. Let's see now Jin and Law's heat smashes: wallsplat 5km away and have hard wall break properties too. This is obviously fine, I mean, who cares. Just learn the match up bro and play better against them. But DVJ having a PSYCHO CRUSHER??!??!?!?!??!? WTF, nananana. Who cares that after blocking it people can FLOAT DEVIL JIN with just a F*CKING JAB!? It's broken anyways wtf. So, nanananana. My solution is to... Just don't give DVJ any heat smash.

Ah and I almost forget, his cd4. It should be nerfed even more because cd4s are annoying. Especially DVJ's because his okis after one aren't as strong as Kazuya's, and DVJ needs execution in order to do his vortex mix up (therefore, DVJ is unbalanced asf). Hellsweeps can be sidestepped but blocking them or hopkicking them is just too demanding for newcomers, ok? So, my solution: cd4 (DVJ's only) shouldn't cause any damage - I'm aware of the emotional damage it causes to many players -, rather, it should kiss and hug you and say "I love you Harada <333333" and in pride month it should have a rainbow (to avoid offending LGBT people) + head pats because that's super cute :3.

DVJ's jab should be nerfed too. 112, 122 and 22 guaranteed on hit??? HAHAHA WHAT IS THIS FR?!??!?!?! Uf4 still doesn't have any knockdown on CH? Nananana, this isn't fair: it shouldn't be like this. Uf4 on ch shouldn't knockdown the opponents; it should knockdown DVJ instead. I mean, DVJ does a uf4 on CH and dies. Then it'll be balanced.

DVJ's wings also should be nerfed. NO MORE WINGS (repeat with me:) NO MORE WINGS! And no more horns. And the reason of this is because, idk either but yeah.

No tough nerfs to Feng, Azucena or Victor, tsk tsk. Namco, just remove Devil Jin in the next patch.

[Bon❄超変態駄目青年学生退屈日常自己嫌悪克服]

make lasers homing

[BackStabber108]

make hellsweeps homing

[Zenkaiboost Kekkei Genkai]

he's one of those dumb characters that doesn't belong in the game,

i don't know how to react when he suddenly flies off the ground and he's hovering above me... i'm like wtf is happening this isn't tekken

from there he can shoot lasers, he can dive at you and grab you, he can do all kinds of nonsense

and people cry about Feng's backstep

[$OULJA $TRIFE]

Originally posted by Legendrake:

he's one of those dumb characters that doesn't belong in the game,

i don't know how to react when he suddenly flies off the ground and he's hovering above me... i'm like wtf is happening this isn't tekken

from there he can shoot lasers, he can dive at you and grab you, he can do all kinds of nonsense

and people cry about Feng's backstep

silence feng scum

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Some people can get salty when their main gets nerfed, but you're taking it to a whole new level.

[Wystoroyah]

I'm maining Devil Jin and yeah I agree a lot of his kit is annoying and gimmicky, He shouldn't have shackle or his flying bs, b3 is a dumb move, super gimmicky... But tbh a lot of his bs only works in low rank... The only thing he has going for him is wavedash 50/50 which is incredible hard to execute perfectly... But yeah character is annoying but not as annoying as Victor teleporting repeatedly and dodging all the time

[[RNGR|x|GORO]]

I was just messing around; but still can't believe he gets nerfed after every patch...

Originally posted by Bon❄超変態駄目青年学生退屈日常自己嫌悪克服:

make lasers homing

This.

Originally posted by Legendrake:

he's one of those dumb characters that doesn't belong in the game,

i don't know how to react when he suddenly flies off the ground and he's hovering above me... i'm like wtf is happening this isn't tekken

from there he can shoot lasers, he can dive at you and grab you, he can do all kinds of nonsense

and people cry about Feng's backstep

DVJ has been in Tekken since 5, and his moveset is TK3's Jin. Sure he got wings so he'll be using them, but beating him flying is super easy. Just sidestep, any direction works. You can sidestep or duck his throw and launch punish him (it's way easier to launch punish that than normal throws tbh). And if you see a DVJ landing in your face that launch punish him because he just can't move for some frames.
AND ALSO FENG IS BROKEN

Originally posted by C.C. スパークル:

Some people can get salty when their main gets nerfed, but you're taking it to a whole new level.

DVJ isn't my main but my alt, but I wanted to make some parody post because seriously, I don't get why he gets nerfed patch after patch.

Originally posted by Wystoroyah:

I'm maining Devil Jin and yeah I agree a lot of his kit is annoying and gimmicky, He shouldn't have shackle or his flying bs, b3 is a dumb move, super gimmicky... But tbh a lot of his bs only works in low rank... The only thing he has going for him is wavedash 50/50 which is incredible hard to execute perfectly... But yeah character is annoying but not as annoying as Victor teleporting repeatedly and dodging all the time

Imo his flying "bs" is fine, and in most occasions it's just suicidal and it can't even be used in neutral. About having shackles or not, that's also suicide because if you try to do MCR 1 after your opponent has blocked it, you can float out of a jab. B3 finally has a use, in TK7 it was kind of useless tbh. But the heat engager on it it's arguable. His gimmicks only work in low ranks or against people who don't know how to counter him as you said, but in high ranks it's a different story. I'm Tekken King with DVJ and before my promotion I was already playing with people who had at least one char at that rank and they knew how to punish practically everything, when and where to sidestep MCR and fly, etc. But the thing is that many people still don't even know that after his ff1+2 (or uf1+2), they can avoid his steel pedal with a tech roll. Most of players I have fought with just remain on the ground still and never tech roll. They can avoid many other things with it but they just keep sleeping until I kick them.

[onion]

Took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure out this was a troll post lol

[Calm Hostage]

Inb4 gaming journalists skim the Steam forum headlines, and report that Devil Jin needs to be nerfed.

[[RNGR|x|GORO]]

Originally posted by onion:

Took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure out this was a troll post lol

>:)

Originally posted by Calm Hostage:

Inb4 gaming journalists skim the Steam forum headlines, and report that Devil Jin needs to be nerfed.

If that happens I'm gonna send them a trollface by email. And if Namco takes action and nerfs DVJ even more I'm gonna uninstall this game

[gtsaf0]

Bring back T7 launch hellsweep

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Legendrake:

he's one of those dumb characters that doesn't belong in the game,

i don't know how to react when he suddenly flies off the ground and he's hovering above me... i'm like wtf is happening this isn't tekken

from there he can shoot lasers, he can dive at you and grab you, he can do all kinds of nonsense

and people cry about Feng's backstep

0 people cry about fengs backstep..

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

So Momo-Dog made a video about Devil Jin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuEB0D6lT0g

Some things worth mentioning, he said he has more fun with the character now than before the nerfs, he doesn't want the old u/f4 and thinks Devil Jin shouldn't have it, same for a few other moves, and he thinks that Devil Jin shouldn't be balanced around the launching hellsweep.

According to Momo, Devil Jin is now an actual specialist character.

And well, apparently a lot of players hate his opinion.

[NcSmile]

Originally posted by $OULJA $TRIFE:

Originally posted by Legendrake:

he's one of those dumb characters that doesn't belong in the game,

i don't know how to react when he suddenly flies off the ground and he's hovering above me... i'm like wtf is happening this isn't tekken

from there he can shoot lasers, he can dive at you and grab you, he can do all kinds of nonsense

and people cry about Feng's backstep

silence feng scum

50 defence fujin btw

[NcSmile]

Originally posted by gtsaf0:

Bring back T7 launch hellsweep

doesnt he aleady get a combo off hellsweep though??