I think the actual reason people hate king is the people who play him

[Greag]

Most of the stuff that he has is perfectly fine but atleast 50% of king players are radioactively toxic. I really like king but I atleast try to be respectful when using him, but I don't think that's the norm based on what I've seen online. Just a theory tho(a game theory you could say)

[LonesomeSparrow]

that's true for a whole lot of characters. just a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ playing tekken, it seems.

[breast milk🥛]

Originally posted by Gregrene:

Most of the stuff that he has is perfectly fine but atleast 50% of king players are radioactively toxic. I really like king but I atleast try to be respectful when using him, but I don't think that's the norm based on what I've seen online. Just a theory tho(a game theory you could say)

Toxic in what way? Just spamming easy punish moves or what? King does make me frustrated very often, and normally its kuz alot of them just spam moves that end up doing anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 my health. Like theres that one move where he launches you and then grabs you in midair and slams you into the ground. Does a ton of damage, and the las king I played basically only used that move.

[Pelikan]

I don't think people hate King, but in Tekken 8, the grab moves can track sideways, and grab moves/throws can also counter hit, dropping the break window to 8 frames which is very challenging.

Add to that that King has chain throws that he can modulate ( so that you have to guess if 1 or 2 can break it ), unseeable throws that can be buffered and throw animations that do not let you easily know how to break it.

It means that he is very tricky to play against in general due to his style and being the best grab/throw character for now ( perhaps until Marduk come out or Armor King who should be pretty good with that too).

[Greag]

Originally posted by breast milk🥛:

Originally posted by Gregrene:

Most of the stuff that he has is perfectly fine but atleast 50% of king players are radioactively toxic. I really like king but I atleast try to be respectful when using him, but I don't think that's the norm based on what I've seen online. Just a theory tho(a game theory you could say)

Toxic in what way? Just spamming easy punish moves or what? King does make me frustrated very often, and normally its kuz alot of them just spam moves that end up doing anywhere from 1/3 to 1/2 my health. Like theres that one move where he launches you and then grabs you in midair and slams you into the ground. Does a ton of damage, and the las king I played basically only used that move.

thats his heat smash they can only use it once per match

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

I get where you're coming from, but I don't really mind it. If someone's ki charging after wins etc I kind of understand it - they're feeling excited and jubilant in their victory. King is an absolute hype machine from a newcomer perspective, and wrestling is all about playing up to the crowd/showboating etcetera. The ki charging after victory is just part of that wrestling drama, I suppose! Some Kings are faces, others are heels.

I don't really understand how King players don't get bored of seeing the animations, but I suppose it's sort of like how Jin players tend to be very self-absorbed (do Jin mains EVER skip their intro..?). People like to get into character, I suppose!

[Greag]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

I get where you're coming from, but I don't really mind it. If someone's ki charging after wins etc I kind of understand it - they're feeling excited and jubilant in their victory. King is an absolute hype machine from a newcomer perspective, and wrestling is all about playing up to the crowd/showboating etcetera. The ki charging after victory is just part of that wrestling drama, I suppose! Some Kings are faces, others are heels.

I don't really understand how King players don't get bored of seeing the animations, but I suppose it's sort of like how Jin players tend to be very self-absorbed (do Jin mains EVER skip their intro..?). People like to get into character, I suppose! :6face:

Something about grabbing and throwing someone is just an absolute dopamine rush, no matter how many times we do it. I can watch that Giant Swing for hours ngl

king is my main but i personally just cant get behind spamming grabs, if im really plus sure ill grab but most of the time im just gonna hit them with normal moves

[ShadowSplit]

I believe grapplers should be very hard to play characters with great damage. King's problem lies in his "head smashing keyboard" easy gameplay with great damage.

[Mac Tonight]

Most people are bad at breaking grabs and don't want to lab character specific tools. Simple as.

That's not to say he's not strong in other areas, but that's the cusp of it.

[Castyles]

Ever faced a rushdown King? Or a turtle King who keeps you at a distance and spam Power Crush moves, if you manage to get close?

If you think his throws are the only issue, you ain't seem nothing yet.

It honestly seems King has the most amount of safe moves in the entire roster.

[BACKSTABUUU]

It's because he's the throw character in a game where throws are massive noob killers and he does a lot of damage.

It's not that deep man.

[DeadZeus]

My main issue with King is his Heatsmash. It's one of the fastest in the game, does the most damage in the game, hits grounded, will groundbreak and gets free mix up afterwards. Like... It's just too good.

[Top Dizog]

when i know i have the upper hand i will lower my health just to do the long winded heat smash into rage art the opponent has to watch like 30 seconds of my character doing all that while i put the controller down. if you enable the special style option you can spam the button so it shows up on their screen real fast. i call it the special style tea bag. of course i wait till the last second to cancel the rematch as well.

[Be_Proud (Heritage)]

Tips on how to break King’s grab more successfully and win against him more.

If it’s 1+2 on wall, assume he’s going for Giant Swing— break with 1, unless he goes for 2 break.

And, anything that is 2 break will ALWAYS be a 2 break.

If he’s running at you, expect a 1+2 grab over Giant Swing, unless he somehow stopped to buffer Giant Swing; and if he did, it’s noticeable, press 1 if he uses 1+2 looking grab. This should increase your grab break percentage against him.

If you expect incoming grab, sometimes it’s worth to flash duck launch. Unless you know the King player likes to use hop-kicks, mids in-between.