Why do people hate Victor so much?

[Legs0fSteel]

I main him so i wanted to step outide of my bias here/

From my POV: His punishment is on the weak side his 14 fframe WR launcher requires a counter-hit so anyone with decent lows can just do whatever they want withiout eating a combo.
His own lows are not safe and not rewarding outside of db4 which is reactable from space and still needs a counter to get a combo.
No way to get into stance safely on block if you block and Victor goes into any stance you can hopkick him for free.
From half screen both of his ring range mids whiff for so long you can dash in and luanch without the timing being tight.

all and all i think he's too linear his gameplan is simple but he gets no ''free'' way to get his game started, no demon paw or mid-kick with insane range and combo on CH like Lili, Bryan and Jin

So that's where i'm coming from i'd love to know where i'm wrong or other reason to dislike him.

[Caliente]

Imagine saying Lili is stronger than Victor

[=\[P]/=]

Lili's f4 is so slow you can't use it to stop masher

Victor's db4 is better when ppl mashing at your face

[Legs0fSteel]

Originally posted by DiscoHeat:

Imagine saying Lili is stronger than Victor

Not what i said Just talking about safe long range mid ch launchers

Reading must be hard

[Powercrank]

he's just easy to use

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by DiscoHeat:

Imagine saying Lili is stronger than Victor

He didn't say that, but even if he did, I'd agree.

Lili as a character is stronger than Victor. Might not seem like it to you since you play her, but her tools are better, Lili players just need to stop playing with 1 hand

[C1REX]

I don't think Victor is top 5 in the game but there are few very annoying moves.

b1+2: super fast, safe on block, good cheap damage, heat engager power crush. Really?
1+2: fast CH hit launcher that is safe on block.
d/b+4: CH low launcher that is also a high crush
u1+2 in heat: The damage and how it can break some Tekken rules.
ff+2 - safe on block launcher (I think).
WR+2 - very fast + on block engager

[comatosedragon]

I haven't played as Victor yet, so my reply is almost pointless.

My personal dislike of Victor comes from his visual design, which I find to be way too busy and flashy.

In my ranked experience, every single Victor user is a flowchart user; they know one super long combo and that's it. Just annoying more than anything, with some more lab time I'm sure he won't be a problem.

But yeah, worst character design (visually) in my mind.

Not to mention the disconnect when trying to imagine a real life bad-ass French national (that was sarcasm).

[Charlsberg//Peachy]

Originally posted by Legs0fSteel:

I main him so i wanted to step outide of my bias here/

From my POV: His punishment is on the weak side his 14 fframe WR launcher requires a counter-hit so anyone with decent lows can just do whatever they want withiout eating a combo.
His own lows are not safe and not rewarding outside of db4 which is reactable from space and still needs a counter to get a combo.
No way to get into stance safely on block if you block and Victor goes into any stance you can hopkick him for free.
From half screen both of his ring range mids whiff for so long you can dash in and luanch without the timing being tight.

all and all i think he's too linear his gameplan is simple but he gets no ''free'' way to get his game started, no demon paw or mid-kick with insane range and combo on CH like Lili, Bryan and Jin

So that's where i'm coming from i'd love to know where i'm wrong or other reason to dislike him.

People don't like that you can mash 2 for a string with natural frame traps that combos. (Although you can just duck).
People don't like that FF2 is quite strong.
People don't like that his teleport shenanigans can blow stuff up unlike most other characters. Even though it's pretty punishable unless you're in heat.

That probably sums it up? I think he's easy to pick up and he destroys newer (worse) players, that probably is the reason.

[Wipkonijntje]

from what i see here on discussions ppl hate every single character in game.

feels like its a weekly rotation whos the most hated character.

guess its victors turn this week.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Brain dead easy mode character

Rewarded way too much for minimal effort. He is terribly designed

The 3 new characters in general are all badly designed, they really just seemed to be pandering to casuals with these additions

[Toods]

It's less about the characters strength, more about the effort that goes into the character.

It's like playing tag with a guy on a motorcycle. You try SO hard but your opponent is just laughing at you tripping in the mud.

[Legs0fSteel]

Originally posted by Toods:

It's less about the characters strength, more about the effort that goes into the character.

It's like playing tag with a guy on a motorcycle. You try SO hard but your opponent is just laughing at you tripping in the mud.

Effort differs person to person though If Victor is considered ''brain dead'' like the person above cliams i don't even want to try other characters as Vic alone is enough to fry my brain with what moves work where,

You make it look like the othere player is some evil villain choosing the easiest character and just laughing at you but i doubt that's the case tehy are just playing the game same as you.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Viktor reminds us that Shaheen exists by shouting his name during matches. He's doing us a valuable and very necessary public service.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

Viktor reminds us that Shaheen exists by shouting his name during matches. He's doing us a valuable and very necessary public service.

You can easily be reminded that Shaheen exists by checking winrate at Ruler+, he's only the 3rd highest winrate in those ranks atm.

[GRANDPA BLACK]

victor gives me noctis flashbacks...