Being respectful...

[Deathwing1306]

Everybody is talking here about being respectful and not to be toxic by not wanting to rematch, ki charging, etc.

But many people don't realize that spamming the auto combo stuff, grabs and rage art is disrespectful enough for one not to want a rematch, whenever I see someone use auto combos or spamming rage art whenever they are low or grabs, I automatically return to standby.

There should definitely be some kind of an option to actually get rid of these players who use Special Style because it's very unfair for some players like me, who would love to learn the game the normal way to fight against them because I am trying to remember and get hang of all the combos and timings I have learned in combo challenges, but I am constantly flying around because people are holding block all the time and then they will start spamming their auto combo button and I keep flying around the arena so I can't even try to put to test the combos I have learned because it's almost impossible to get through lol

Some kind of option to disable Special Style in the search tab would be nice, I am not sure how they would do that, the only option I can think of is that if you disable it and you get matched against someone who also has that disabled, even if you press the button to activate Special Style, it won't activate and you would have to fight the normal way and your opponent as well.

I understand that there are many new players who just want to have fun and all, but I am trying to have fun by learning all the combos myself and getting clapped every game by someone constantly spamming the same exact auto combo is just annoying. I am new player as well and it's my very first Tekken game also (it's my very first fighting game actually), but I would like to learn to play the game how it's supposed to be played and having some kind of disable option for Special Style would be amazing.

[HelgenX]

I can't believe people want respect in a FIGHTING GAME. What a soft world we live in now. I will teabag your girl.

[The_Dybbuk_King]

"I don't know how to block"

-OP

[Deathwing1306]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The_Dybbuk_King:

"I don't know how to block"

-OP

Yeah, holding back 90% of the time like most of the players I am against is really boring, sorry, but I want to fight not just back off and then counter attack my way to the victory.

[SeeMeInMelee]

this is a weird take tbh

[comatosedragon]

Not on topic by any means, but Special Style was the only way I could complete the story mode. That dang True Devil Kazuya was a heart attack inducing cheap a$$. If anyone had the patience to play a 'real game' against them (4 times??) and win, my hat is off to you.

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deathwing1306:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The_Dybbuk_King:

"I don't know how to block"

-OP

Yeah, holding back 90% of the time like most of the players I am against is really boring, sorry, but I want to fight not just back off and then counter attack my way to the victory.

lol

[heave N hell]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deathwing1306:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ross:

I mean if you KNOW they're panic spamming Rage Art it's probably in your best interest to not mash and just wait. Throw out a string that's plus, let the panic Rage Art animation play out and then punish. I believe Rage Arts are -13? So get a combo that's a -13 punish and seal the deal -- it's a free win.

I do that, but I always get caught in it on my very first game because I keep believing that I am going to meet someone respectful enough not to use it, but I am not right most of the time.

Whenever someone spams the rage art after I know they are going to spam that, I am just going to block and grab attack so it's eye for an eye, but the rage art isn't really that big of a deal compared to the auto combo stuff.

just go afk, block after match. no need to post how much u hate them, ull see less of them in higher ranks

[heave N hell]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Norbac:

Let me give you some tips:

Watch a video or read a guide for your character.
Practice in arcade some basic strings, punishers, maybe some combos.

That's it, with some practice you should be on par with special style players, or arguably better because you can adapt.

I really don't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ understand these complaints.

u have to imagine urself as a newcomer that dosnt know anything about fighting games and thinks combos is the only way to win, like if u were 12 watching ur dad doing 8 hit combos in street fighter , hell someone peopel even think combos are cheap lmao

[Mavi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deathwing1306:

I have started playing against real players at almost 30 hours of play time, I have practiced with my character, did combo challenges, some punishment challenges, did the story mode, arcade quest, beaten ALL of the ghosts in super ghost battles, did ALL of the character episodes, even watched some YT video, but watching YT videos about your character won't actually teach you much, you have to learn in by playing, not by watching and here we are... I have no idea how to play against these players with Special Style on because I don't want to just spam the attack buttons, I actually want to get a feel for each attack combination, but I keep getting spammed by all kinds of low attacks, grabs, rage arts and special style auto combos.

I don't think that these players I am getting matched against actually want to understand the game, I feel like they just want to spam everything possible to just win.

It is normal that as a beginner you'll be wrecked online.

This also is not really about respect - neither in the fgc meaning nor in another.

As a beginner you always have these initiation rites. In 2d games it may be the firewall spam and in 3d fighters it's the string spammers. It doesn't even matter if they have auto combos or not, in T7 in beginner ranks they just learned one or two strings that are easy to execute and hard to deal with for other beginners and spammed that. The effect on someone wanting to learn the game "the right way" is the same.

Each and every beginner in any fighting game has to go through these. You have to learn how to deal with the spamming. And if you don't believe me, search through any fighting game forum. You'll see a lot of those spamming threads.

Another thing: 30 hours in a fighting game is not really that much. To be able to have full control over your character as a beginner is something that needs time. I imagine that most beginners will still resort to some sort of panick button mashing if things go south - like they did 20 years ago. A little heads-up for that: In Tekken your character does standing block automatically if you press nothing. So, instead of pressing anything when panicking, just force yourself to press nothing. This will probably end up better for you in many situations.

That you don't know how to deal with the things your opponents do is very normal at your stage. No one hops online for the first time in a fighting game as a beginner and won't see their b kicked a lot. You will lose a lot. And I truly mean a lot in the most literal meaning of the phrase.

There's this old saying: The master has failed more times than the novice has tried. This is especially true in a fighting game setting.

I won't go into detail about "respect", but just one thing: In a fighting game you force your opponent to have respect, you don't demand it. For example you go up to them and throw them. Now they know they have to defend against throws. Or another example: they throw out a rage art against you, you being aware and blocking it, retaliating with a little combo as a result. Suddenly, they will be more hesitant to use said rage art in the next round for they fear the damage you could inflict uppon them. That is what respect means in fighting game terms.

[Negan]

get good? Winnings winning.

" Ask any gamers. Any real gamers. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning"

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I love people that mindlessly spam they are free wins and I'm bad so a win is nice to get rofl.

[Mavi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CHEEZ3:

man king grabs are something else, that guy would grab u for 10 secounds straight

As a Nina main I often serve them their own medicine. Kinda funny, those players suddenly get a lot more defensive after they've received their massage.

Also, maybe this may help some of you guys out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya6RPMSEaFg

[👑THE STORM QUEEN👑]

This spicy beef is too spicy

[DQ | SlawPro]

Using special style doesn't make you better at the game. If anything it makes you worse at the game and it's ♥♥♥♥. It's not about respect mate, if someone really wanted to disrespect you, they would ki charge you after every round perfecting you ez 100 dollar combos with balcony break wall carries.

[Peck]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Deathwing1306:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ross:

I mean if you KNOW they're panic spamming Rage Art it's probably in your best interest to not mash and just wait. Throw out a string that's plus, let the panic Rage Art animation play out and then punish. I believe Rage Arts are -13? So get a combo that's a -13 punish and seal the deal -- it's a free win.

I do that, but I always get caught in it on my very first game because I keep believing that I am going to meet someone respectful enough not to use it, but I am not right most of the time.

Whenever someone spams the rage art after I know they are going to spam that, I am just going to block and grab attack so it's eye for an eye, but the rage art isn't really that big of a deal compared to the auto combo stuff.

Respectful enough not to use the Rage Art is an.... odd statement. If you get caught with it once, that's on you for not respecting it.
You should know after that, for the next few rounds, you can expect the (random?) Rage Art. Punish it with the best combo you have and make sure they don't throw it just like that anymore, make them learn the hard way.

I do agree with the Special Style in Ranked, it irks me in a way it shouldn't. Look at it this way though: you get to learn their combos and strings since they will only do one thing and they usually mash Heat Smash too.

Learn to read their patterns, figure out what moves counter or interrupt, if you can fight from a range where you can trap them and learn to recognize animations. When are they attacking low, mid, high, when can you duck and punish?

I accept these games now and try to punish as hard as I can, with the longest possible combo's and oki.

The only time I don't select Rematch is when the connection is outright bad or when "all of a sudden" when my opponent is being combo'd, the connection starts stuttering and I got massive packet loss. That's a tell-tale sign for me to quit the set at the first opportunity the game gives me.