Need serious advise on wavedash/KBD on pad

[Average AMD neanderthal]

Since tekken 7 i've been trying to get into the games more competitively. However, i quickly found out that certain techniques require you to really go the extra mile. 'fair' So i thought. However, some of these techniques really put your fingers to the limit and then some. And you need to be able to do them constantly, such as the 2 aforementioned techniques above.

I know their inputs, and i can perform them. But roughly with 50% accuracy. It feels like an unnatural hand motion, and is physically very taxing on the fingers and on the thumb in particular. It is also very confusing.
Because what happens is that my thumb feels strained, and my other fingers are trying to hold the controller in place with lots of strength. I then do the motions which feel odd and particularly while doing qcb. Eventually, it costs lots of stamina from mostly my fingers, but also a bit of the arms as i try to keep the controller in place while i press and slide from key A to key B, over and over again. And eventually the pad buttons feel smooth from the constant motion so i no longer feel the 'click' from pressing them down. Making my brain wonder if i pressed it already, which obviously messes the rythm up.

Stamina, accuracy, comfort, They all go through the window as i practice them for hours and hours on end. Sometimes i nail it perfectly for 20 seconds straight, other times i just ackwardly jitter the character back and sideways to my frustration. Realizing i know damned well how it's done but can't get my fingers to consistently do it with ease. Does anyone have any tips on how they trained their hands to do it properly and efficiently? Because i don't know if a few more hundred hours of this is going to change much.

[onion]

I played a lot of T7 maining mishimas on a ps4 controller, I can say that it feels pretty uncomfortable even when you do get good. My advice is just to take it really slow at first to steadily build up the muscle memory as it takes a long while to get accustomed to it. In training, try turning on command display to see what you press when you fail a wavedash.

However, if you start feeling pain or intense discomfort, perhaps consider switching to keyboard.

[Kitai]

i barely even know how to wavedash,
the best way to get better is to start practising with someone who has the time to help you learn, or just go into practice mode,

its going to feel uncomfortable at first, which it was for me at first, over time i got like a 10 20% accuracy at best against bots and like 0% against a human,

the more you practice the more it comes natural,
if you ever start feeling pain i recommend to take a break never over strain your hand,

i always hear that its easier on keyboard not sure how true that is cause to me that sounds like a** to use for a fighting game, so give that a try if the pad is giving you issues.

this is coming from someone who cant wavedash effectively.

[Izanagi]

Jin main here, wavedashing never felt great on a pad to me but since switching to a hitbox I find it much more comfortable. Before making the purchase I tried on keyboard with asd spacebar to make sure I'd enjoy the input layout which I recommend as the controllers can be pricey.

[Average AMD neanderthal]

Originally posted by Kitai:

i barely even know how to wavedash,
the best way to get better is to start practising with someone who has the time to help you learn, or just go into practice mode,

its going to feel uncomfortable at first, which it was for me at first, over time i got like a 10 20% accuracy at best against bots and like 0% against a human,

the more you practice the more it comes natural,
if you ever start feeling pain i recommend to take a break never over strain your hand,

i always hear that its easier on keyboard not sure how true that is cause to me that sounds like a** to use for a fighting game, so give that a try if the pad is giving you issues.

this is coming from someone who cant wavedash effectively.

on keyboard it was easier for me, but i do it on pad because that is what is typically used for these games and keyboard is only really feasible in the home. if i want to play it elsewhere, i will be at a loss.

[Zagryzaec]

Well some people claim that new players like this ♥♥♥♥ and come to Tekken for this marvelous mechanics.

Not that I met a lot of new players that didn't tell the truth about those like you.

[Tenko]

Originally posted by Kitai:

i barely even know how to wavedash,
the best way to get better is to start practising with someone who has the time to help you learn, or just go into practice mode,

its going to feel uncomfortable at first, which it was for me at first, over time i got like a 10 20% accuracy at best against bots and like 0% against a human,

the more you practice the more it comes natural,
if you ever start feeling pain i recommend to take a break never over strain your hand,

i always hear that its easier on keyboard not sure how true that is cause to me that sounds like a** to use for a fighting game, so give that a try if the pad is giving you issues.

this is coming from someone who cant wavedash effectively.

it is easier on keyboards because you can just hold forward, press back twice, then tap down and just repeat pressing back twice then tapping down while still holding forward

People dont use keyboards for fighting games most people just use a stick or a hitbox

[progste]

Take it slow at first and use a slide on the down button to input the diagonal