Wifi opponents are unplayable

[Hoppled]

Yeah… you only see praise for this game online, but it’s most important feature: online, is mediocre Smash Bros netcode.

The only way to have a smooth connection is have an opponent on Ethernet with low ping. Wifi just lags no matter what with 5 bar connection. I get that it’s wifi, but guess what? SF6 had a lot of smooth wifi matches in my experience.

Idk if it’s even worth playing at this point when 30% of the matches are a lagfest.

[Asbepis]

Originally posted by Hoppled:

Yeah… you only see praise for this game online, but it’s most important feature: online, is mediocre Smash Bros netcode.

The only way to have a smooth connection is have an opponent on Ethernet with low ping. Wifi just lags no matter what with 5 bar connection. I get that it’s wifi, but guess what? SF6 had a lot of smooth wifi matches in my experience.

Idk if it’s even worth playing at this point when 30% of the matches are a lagfest.

I havn't tested much but every wifi opponent (including my friend who lives close to me with 40ping) is completely unplayable, the only ethernet opponent i have fought had 140ping and the connection was flawless.

[Hoppled]

Originally posted by Assbepis:

Originally posted by Hoppled:

Yeah… you only see praise for this game online, but it’s most important feature: online, is mediocre Smash Bros netcode.

The only way to have a smooth connection is have an opponent on Ethernet with low ping. Wifi just lags no matter what with 5 bar connection. I get that it’s wifi, but guess what? SF6 had a lot of smooth wifi matches in my experience.

Idk if it’s even worth playing at this point when 30% of the matches are a lagfest.

I havn't tested much but every wifi opponent (including my friend who lives close to me with 40ping) is completely unplayable, the only ethernet opponent i have fought had 140ping and the connection was flawless.

Yeah I legit think MK1 has better netcode, which is sad.

[progste]

I played several wi-fi players and it was perfectly fine.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Nothing worse than a Wi-Fi hwoarang

[Hoppled]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Nothing worse than a Wi-Fi hwoarang

Or Victor. So many mashing idiots playing him.

[Wise]

Sometimes you get bad apples but I played ton of wifi players (sub 100ms) and it was fine. Personally I'm more concerned about opponents PC not being up the task and i kinda like playing vs console players because of thatm even if they are mostly on wifi.

[Behind You]

I've had better 1 bar connection, no-lag matches on sf6 than 4 bar matches on tekken 8, I also seem to magically fine wifi players who go from 5 bars to 1 bar when losing, no idea why that would happen.

[cinless]

Originally posted by Trash Player:

I've had better 1 bar connection, no-lag matches on sf6 than 4 bar matches on tekken 8, I also seem to magically fine wifi players who go from 5 bars to 1 bar when losing, no idea why that would happen.

You don't get matched with poor connections unless you specifically allow it, so you can only get matched with people who have unstable connections while their connection is seemingly normal. It's selection bias.

That said, the game does warn you if someone's on wifi, you knew the risks when you accepted the match.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by Trash Player:

I've had better 1 bar connection, no-lag matches on sf6 than 4 bar matches on tekken 8, I also seem to magically fine wifi players who go from 5 bars to 1 bar when losing, no idea why that would happen.

I’ve played red connection Wi-Fi players in SF6 in the hub area and people just warp all over the place

There is no miracle netcode that makes a Wi-Fi opponent half way across the world playable

SF6 has the worst region locked ranked settings I’ve seen. They’re so confident with their netcode they don’t let you play anyone that isn’t remotely close to you

[progste]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Originally posted by Trash Player:

I've had better 1 bar connection, no-lag matches on sf6 than 4 bar matches on tekken 8, I also seem to magically fine wifi players who go from 5 bars to 1 bar when losing, no idea why that would happen.

I’ve played red connection Wi-Fi players in SF6 in the hub area and people just warp all over the place

There is no miracle netcode that makes a Wi-Fi opponent half way across the world playable

SF6 has the worst region locked ranked settings I’ve seen. They’re so confident with their netcode they don’t let you play anyone that isn’t remotely close to you

guess it worked as a marketing tactucs judging from the number of cultists preaching the holy SF netcode.

[cinless]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

SF6 has the worst region locked ranked settings I’ve seen. They’re so confident with their netcode they don’t let you play anyone that isn’t remotely close to you

To be fair, I live in norway and I've got a friend out in arizona who I sometimes play fighting games with, both SF and Tekken 8 are pretty smooth under these conditions.
Ping averages around 200 something, both games remain playable.

[Milicona]

Netcode can not fix ♥♥♥♥♥♥ wifi, If the game runs well when players are wired, then the game is fine. I get issues with wifi players in SF6 all the time, I've gotten issues in NRS games, i've gotten issues in fightcade. Don't accept matches against wifi players, the game literally tells you what connection they use.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by progste:

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I’ve played red connection Wi-Fi players in SF6 in the hub area and people just warp all over the place

There is no miracle netcode that makes a Wi-Fi opponent half way across the world playable

SF6 has the worst region locked ranked settings I’ve seen. They’re so confident with their netcode they don’t let you play anyone that isn’t remotely close to you

guess it worked as a marketing tactucs judging from the number of cultists preaching the holy SF netcode.

Despite all this I still see pro SF6 players defaulting to the ugly training stage to minimise lag

The game cuts graphical fidelity when online, for example the characters getting dirty or bruised is completely removed online as are various background details

Tekken 8 makes no compromises, you have all this incredible fidelity, destructible objects and environmental damage etc. yet none of this is taking into consideration by people who ignorantly compare the netcode

Dunno about you guys but I like to see some fidelity online, I’m not burning out my retinas looking at a grey background all day like SF6 pros

[Platsys]

Originally posted by Hoppled:

Yeah… you only see praise for this game online, but it’s most important feature: online, is mediocre Smash Bros netcode.

The only way to have a smooth connection is have an opponent on Ethernet with low ping. Wifi just lags no matter what with 5 bar connection. I get that it’s wifi, but guess what? SF6 had a lot of smooth wifi matches in my experience.

Idk if it’s even worth playing at this point when 30% of the matches are a lagfest.

This games netcode could definitely be a LOT better, but comparing it to smash ultimate is not fair in the slightest, that games netcode was terrible with ethernet, and completely unplayable on wifi

just don't accept games from wifi players, didn't get that option in smash

[vodkak18(Sigmund Freud bday)]

Late reply maybe but for anyone with 1000 reasons why they can‘t use a cable: I hope this lowers those excuses for most.

* Use a Powerline adapter

For about 15$ you can get the cheapest options. Obviously do some research and find what’s best for you. At least, you won’t just be a wifi player - you’ll be one that tried. Blessed day 🙏

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AV1000-Powerline-Starter-TL-PA7017/dp/B08Z4GRR8F/ref=asc_df_B08Z4GRR8F/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=642122138092&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16278287540404067090&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9058761&hvtargid=pla-1246988348783&psc=1&mcid=32bd910defe439b6aea3405015ed1b21