Don't give up!

[Yam]

Put the labtime in, send a friend request to that player you had a close match with and ask to practice together, review your replays and ask yourself what you can do different.

Even if it takes you longer than others, you can improve as much as you're willing to push yourself to.

Most importantly, remember that there is ONE common denominator in all of your matches, YOU. Don't cope and blame the other player, balancing or anything else. Focus on what you can control, improving your own gameplay!

Every loss is a lesson in how to win your next match.

Good luck, have fun, and GET READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE

[Yam]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by Izanagi:

I'm gonna be honest with you, if you're getting launch punished using your rage art I don't think you're playing at as high of a level as you think. Generally you want to weave you RA into a combo to avoid getting punished for it.

I'm not saying this to be down on you, just think if you understand the reality you can adjust and push yourself further.
Sometimes all it takes is slowing down and waiting for a punish opportunity, sometimes being more aggressive is the answer, but there's always something you can change about your own gameplay, and nothing you can change about your opponents.

Believe me, everyone you ask will be able to tell you what makes their characters weak because every character has counterplay. Hold yourself accountable for your own gameplay and believe in your ability to improve and you will succeed!

i only use the rage art to whiff punish with it, but sometimes the rollback shows me false info, and my rage art gets blocked.
it happens.
however, neither hopkick nor downforward 2 can punish following rage arts on block:
Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, Steve, Shaheen, Paul, Reina, Azucena.

I'm going to be honest, it just sounds like copium. Before it was because your character was too weak, now it's a rollback issue.

If you know whiff punishing with RA is consistently failing why would you keep doing it instead of punishing with a safer move?

If you know you can't punish those RAs with your hopkick or DF2 then you can adjust and react accordingly.

There's nothing wrong with having to improve, but you never will be able to if all you do is make excuses. You can do better, I believe in you friend

[Yam]

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Don't have the time to put that much work into it, I just want to have fun...It's just a game, I put real effort in actual martial arts. Now I just want to play the game for 30mins-1hr but if I get frustrated it takes all 'I want to have fun and relax' part of video games away for me.

I got you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZplDZpOyY

That's a video on how to make time to also be able to improve at fighting games when you have a busy schedule.

And honestly, if you have only half an hour to an hour every day for them, that's much more time than the video is using as example, so just put aside a session or two a week where you work on improving. That will help you have fun when you do play to fight other people because you won't be getting stomped every match.

Exactly this. You don't have to commit any more time than you're willing to. Improving can take as long as you need it to, just go at your own pace and enjoy the journey. I guarantee you'll have more fun trying to improve during your playtime than you would settling and getting rolled.

Everyone is capable of improving, at their own pace in their own time of course. It doesn't have to be nor will it ever be an immediate change and even small incremental improvements will feel better than you think!

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by Izanagi:

I'm gonna be honest with you, if you're getting launch punished using your rage art I don't think you're playing at as high of a level as you think. Generally you want to weave you RA into a combo to avoid getting punished for it.

I'm not saying this to be down on you, just think if you understand the reality you can adjust and push yourself further.
Sometimes all it takes is slowing down and waiting for a punish opportunity, sometimes being more aggressive is the answer, but there's always something you can change about your own gameplay, and nothing you can change about your opponents.

Believe me, everyone you ask will be able to tell you what makes their characters weak because every character has counterplay. Hold yourself accountable for your own gameplay and believe in your ability to improve and you will succeed!

i only use the rage art to whiff punish with it, but sometimes the rollback shows me false info, and my rage art gets blocked.
it happens.
however, neither hopkick nor downforward 2 can punish following rage arts on block:
Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, Steve, Shaheen, Paul, Reina, Azucena.

Here, I punished all those RA with hopkick.

Against Reina and Azucena, I even showed that if you're too slow or using too slow of a move, the punish bot will block, so all those punishes I've done there actually work to punish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWuqhbZJu9s

(HD processing isn't done at the time of writing, so only 360p is available rn for the vid)

Any more excuses?

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by Izanagi:

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

i only use the rage art to whiff punish with it, but sometimes the rollback shows me false info, and my rage art gets blocked.
it happens.
however, neither hopkick nor downforward 2 can punish following rage arts on block:
Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, Steve, Shaheen, Paul, Reina, Azucena.

I'm going to be honest, it just sounds like copium. Before it was because your character was too weak, now it's a rollback issue.

If you know whiff punishing with RA is consistently failing why would you keep doing it instead of punishing with a safer move?

If you know you can't punish those RAs with your hopkick or DF2 then you can adjust and react accordingly.

There's nothing wrong with having to improve, but you never will be able to if all you do is make excuses. You can do better, I believe in you friend

because more often than not, the rollback kicks in strangely in favor of the opponent only when it matters, and because that's my last resort in that moment?
you speak so highly about your knowledge, maybe you want to have a few sets with me to see if i'm as scrubby as you think.
i know pretty much everything there is to know about how to punish and not do unsafe strings.
tekken is about more than just using basic one-two's that are safe to use.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

i only use the rage art to whiff punish with it, but sometimes the rollback shows me false info, and my rage art gets blocked.
it happens.
however, neither hopkick nor downforward 2 can punish following rage arts on block:
Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, Steve, Shaheen, Paul, Reina, Azucena.

Here, I punished all those RA with hopkick.

Against Reina and Azucena, I even showed that if you're too slow or using too slow of a move, the punish bot will block, so all those punishes I've done there actually work to punish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWuqhbZJu9s

(HD processing isn't done at the time of writing, so only 360p is available rn for the vid)

Any more excuses?

good for you, but online it somehow never works.
hopkicks don't come out any faster and yet it doesn't hit.
Also, why is Hwoarang not pushing you back? the guy is unpunishable by anyone with the pushback he does with the rage art, i don't get it.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Here, I punished all those RA with hopkick.

Against Reina and Azucena, I even showed that if you're too slow or using too slow of a move, the punish bot will block, so all those punishes I've done there actually work to punish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWuqhbZJu9s

(HD processing isn't done at the time of writing, so only 360p is available rn for the vid)

Any more excuses?

good for you, but online it somehow never works.
hopkicks don't come out any faster and yet it doesn't hit.
Also, why is Hwoarang not pushing you back? the guy is unpunishable by anyone with the pushback he does with the rage art, i don't get it.

I don't know of any RA that has pushback in T8 so far.

Also, one thing, block stun is a bit different in T8 than T7 for RAs, so it needs a bit of getting used to. I've been doing the punishment practice for most of the cast, so I got more used to it, but going raw in matches can cause it to be an issue if you're not used to it, and even now I still have moments where I go "I punished that" because I was a frame or two too late due to block stun, especially on moves that I've punished for ages in Tekken 7.

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by Izanagi:

I'm going to be honest, it just sounds like copium. Before it was because your character was too weak, now it's a rollback issue.

If you know whiff punishing with RA is consistently failing why would you keep doing it instead of punishing with a safer move?

If you know you can't punish those RAs with your hopkick or DF2 then you can adjust and react accordingly.

There's nothing wrong with having to improve, but you never will be able to if all you do is make excuses. You can do better, I believe in you friend

because more often than not, the rollback kicks in strangely in favor of the opponent only when it matters, and because that's my last resort in that moment?
you speak so highly about your knowledge, maybe you want to have a few sets with me to see if i'm as scrubby as you think.
i know pretty much everything there is to know about how to punish and not do unsafe strings.
tekken is about more than just using basic one-two's that are safe to use.

Go online! That is the proper old school way to see who know the best.

[KazeKage79]

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Don't have the time to put that much work into it, I just want to have fun...It's just a game, I put real effort in actual martial arts. Now I just want to play the game for 30mins-1hr but if I get frustrated it takes all 'I want to have fun and relax' part of video games away for me.

I got you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZplDZpOyY

That's a video on how to make time to also be able to improve at fighting games when you have a busy schedule.

And honestly, if you have only half an hour to an hour every day for them, that's much more time than the video is using as example, so just put aside a session or two a week where you work on improving. That will help you have fun when you do play to fight other people because you won't be getting stomped every match.

Thanks for this, I ll take a look, but i do not have time everyday. I come from the days when Tekken was a great party game and I would play it as a student against friends in a sofa or in the arcade. I never played online in T7. My expectations are not meeting my memories i had of Tekken from 3-6. I having the most fun even when losing when it s close match, but just being air combo to death in less than 10 seconds is not fun for me.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

I got you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sZplDZpOyY

That's a video on how to make time to also be able to improve at fighting games when you have a busy schedule.

And honestly, if you have only half an hour to an hour every day for them, that's much more time than the video is using as example, so just put aside a session or two a week where you work on improving. That will help you have fun when you do play to fight other people because you won't be getting stomped every match.

Thanks for this, I ll take a look, but i do not have time everyday. I come from the days when Tekken was a great party game and I would play it as a student against friends in a sofa or in the arcade. I never played online in T7. My expectations are not meeting my memories i had of Tekken from 3-6. I having the most fun even when losing when it s close match, but just being air combo to death in less than 10 seconds is not fun for me.

In order to have close matches, you need to have 2 people of similar skill levels, so 2 bad players playing at a college party does fit that requirement, but when you go in the game and play against other people, the moment you're matched against someone that's not on your skill level, it can either feel too easy or too hard because there's a skill gap.

Also, that video I shared with you assumed a 1-3h per week of time for fighting games, so you should be fine.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by Messsucher:

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

because more often than not, the rollback kicks in strangely in favor of the opponent only when it matters, and because that's my last resort in that moment?
you speak so highly about your knowledge, maybe you want to have a few sets with me to see if i'm as scrubby as you think.
i know pretty much everything there is to know about how to punish and not do unsafe strings.
tekken is about more than just using basic one-two's that are safe to use.

Go online! That is the proper old school way to see who know the best.

i went online and got to red ranks.
everyone is killing me with ease.
i have no idea what this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game is about anymore.

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by Messsucher:

Go online! That is the proper old school way to see who know the best.

i went online and got to red ranks.
everyone is killing me with ease.
i have no idea what this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game is about anymore.

I meant with that person.

[76561199256874826]

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Originally posted by Izanagi:

Beautifully put my friend! Isn't this what makes fighters so fun though? There's always something you can learn and improve. We drive eachother to be better every match we play. You can be as good as you're willing to be, but it takes work which is what makes it so satisfying each time it pays off.

Don't have the time to put that much work into it, I just want to have fun...It's just a game, I put real effort in actual martial arts. Now I just want to play the game for 30mins-1hr but if I get frustrated it takes all 'I want to have fun and relax' part of video games away for me.

then tekken is not for you, simple as that. there are thousands of games out there if you want to chill and relax.

[KazeKage79]

Originally posted by Rakarr:

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Don't have the time to put that much work into it, I just want to have fun...It's just a game, I put real effort in actual martial arts. Now I just want to play the game for 30mins-1hr but if I get frustrated it takes all 'I want to have fun and relax' part of video games away for me.

then tekken is not for you, simple as that. there are thousands of games out there if you want to chill and relax.

That's what I am starting to a realize...I mentioned in a previous post that I come from a time Tekken was a great party/sofa or arcade game where people played more for fun than competition (no online). I wanted to get back into it but I see it has changed a lot since Tekken 3-6. I only did the story mode in Tekken 7 and played time to time against friends that came to visit. The level of some people is just insane to me. Past green levels sometimes I have no idea how people are moving and reacting that fast...I think I am just getting old haha.

[Messsucher]

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

Originally posted by Rakarr:

then tekken is not for you, simple as that. there are thousands of games out there if you want to chill and relax.

That's what I am starting to a realize...I mentioned in a previous post that I come from a time Tekken was a great party/sofa or arcade game where people played more for fun than competition (no online). I wanted to get back into it but I see it has changed a lot since Tekken 3-6. I only did the story mode in Tekken 7 and played time to time against friends that came to visit. The level of some people is just insane to me. Past green levels sometimes I have no idea how people are moving and reacting that fast...I think I am just getting old haha.

Tekken was indeed a great sofa fighting game, mostly because it was skill based yet felt awesome to those who just bashed buttons, at least as long as they played against similar button bashers.

I think online in Tekken 8 should stabilize a bit, now I hear it is very chaotic. I haven't played much online in Tekken 7, but the experience there has been great. It is like couch gaming, with the occasional combo/launcher dudes 0-100 you. In theory you should win 50 % of the timie, that is every other match, if the match making works perfectly.

[KazeKage79]

Originally posted by Messsucher:

Originally posted by KazeKage79:

That's what I am starting to a realize...I mentioned in a previous post that I come from a time Tekken was a great party/sofa or arcade game where people played more for fun than competition (no online). I wanted to get back into it but I see it has changed a lot since Tekken 3-6. I only did the story mode in Tekken 7 and played time to time against friends that came to visit. The level of some people is just insane to me. Past green levels sometimes I have no idea how people are moving and reacting that fast...I think I am just getting old haha.

Tekken was indeed a great sofa fighting game, mostly because it was skill based yet felt awesome to those who just bashed buttons, at least as long as they played against similar button bashers.

I think online in Tekken 8 should stabilize a bit, now I hear it is very chaotic. I haven't played much online in Tekken 7, but the experience there has been great. It is like couch gaming, with the occasional combo/launcher dudes 0-100 you. In theory you should win 50 % of the timie, that is every other match, if the match making works perfectly.

Just played a few matches online and it was mostly fun, won some - lost more, but still fun. I cannot get pass warrior rank haha anyone above that rank is almost impossible for me to beat ( for now).