Im sick of Steve Fox already

[Badman*Kazuya]

Im tired of how easy he is to use, his terrible British accent. 0 effort went into actually balancing him. He is way to easy with the new aggressive nature of T8. He need a heavy nerf.

[b34stm1lk]

Victor is worse, makes every match against him a complete slugfest.

[Badman*Kazuya]

Im done with T8 tbh. Its not a direction i want the series to go in.

[Be_Proud (Heritage)]

Originally posted by KING*KAZUYA:

Im done with T8 tbh. Its not a direction i want the series to go in.

Curious. What exactly do you dislike about T8? And, I'm assuming you've mained Kazuya in T7, correct? What direction did you want it to take? T8, in my opinion, is very reminiscent of seasons 4 and 5 of T7, except it doesn't have things like CH b1, M4's, and large combo/wall routes to make up for the lack of interactions besides movement and dry/safe pokes. Also, they've done getting rid of stuff like 2D.

[R4DIC4L]

Steve has been nerfed enough as is. Is holding back that hard?

[That Terrible Biscuit]

Actually going up against Steve is somewhat a blessing to me if Im using Lili. Just counter the high/meds and you can tip the balance to your favour

[Pelikan]

He is rated as one of the worst characters by many experts I've heard on youtube.

From what I've experienced ( I am not an expert) he is weaker than in T7 despite the new stance (not very useful IMO) and being easier to use. He feels less safe to me when pressing, has less ways to launch/combos, his pressure was relentless in T7 but not sure it is the case anymore. That is just my opinion though, I could be wrong, maybe i don't use him well.

[Make otgf -9 pls]

If you play kaz like me i remind you it is our worst or second to worst (lee) matchup
And he got already nerfed

[R4DIC4L]

Here's the full list of Steve nerfs from T7 to T8:

-B1's damage reduced (17 to 10)
-B1,2 no more wallsplat (that means fastest way he can wallsplat you is doing rocket launcher which comes at 16 frames)
-No more 13 frame rage art.
-Df2 is not a launcher on ch anymore
-His fastest standing (17f) launcher doesn't launch anymore, which means his fastest launcher in neutral comes at 22 frames now.
-Right weave 4,1,2 is not a hit confirmable ch launcher anymore, and last hit changed with a high move instead
-While standing 2 doesn't launch on ch anymore, making it harder for him to deal with mashing when he's in duck stance.
-Extended duck 1, left weave 3 [ch] 1, f212, and flicker b2 are no longer a launcher
-Extended duck f2 is not a guard break anymore
-Extended duck mix is gone in neutral, now you can only do clinch throw or extended duck 1 mixup in heat which has lower reward compared to extended duck mix.
-Db3,2 stomp and uf3,2 doesn't knockdown and doesn't give a guaranteed hit anymore, also both of moves' damage reduced significantly.
-Wall ender gatling gun's damage reduced
-His overall combo damage is noticeably reduced
-Punch parry input changed to b1+3 for no reason, causing instant flicker moves to execute harder now
-His 14 frame whiff punisher forces him to go heat which prevent him doing a wall splat
-D [2] ☆ 1,2 mid-mid hit confirmable string is gone
-Dempsey roll is gone
-Enhanced sonic fang rage drive is gone
-In order for him to open up his opponent, he has to rely on his new lionheart stance which has mid tornado launcher that is -13 on block and a high unblockable that gives 20 damage on hit but its delayed hopkick punishable. So new stance make him relying on high risk low reward moves to open his opponents unlike his old extended duck mixup which had high risk high reward.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

He feels quite a bit weaker than in T7. More mobile, but much less threatening on the attack - which is rough when basically everyone else has been given super sayan tools now. I go roughly even in games with a similarly ranked Steve, but I gotta admit he's just a way better player than me. He has to earn his wins.

... Agreed on the accent though, I think his VA sucks.

[Leeepo/Sry lag..]

That aged poorly.

Hes literally the second weakest on the roster, his lionheart is easily countered (unless they master the insanely heart PKB cancel) and "0 effort" is just wrong x)

[MxWu1337-bilibili]

Lol... wut?
There are three weak characters in Tekken 8
Asuka
Leroy
And Steve...

Steve has no conventional launchers. He can't whiff punish with a launcher. In a game where juggles are the most important tool to a win (unless you're a poking god)

He needs a buff.... not a nerf.