Ghost of the Tekken pros

[Maxaemon]

So how are you guys doing against pros ghosts? Idk I expeted more, they kinda easy to beat.

[Napo]

They don't have enough training data. It will be interesting to come back in a year or more when the pros will have hundreds of matches against every character. It will never replace human players but imo the ghosts can get pretty good already.

[Cpt Obvious]

Maybe you were the pro all along?

[Maxaemon]

Originally posted by Cpt Obvious:

Maybe you were the pro all along?

nah, I only got to ruler ranks in T7.. yet I'm beating all the ghosts from top leaderboard players? looks like ghosts won't be as useful as expeted.

[Stompnado]

i don't know , ghost mode is locked behind that stupid arcade quest garbage, gotta waste my time playing there so it unlocks ghost AI mode

whoever decided to lock ghost mode behind arcade quest needs to get kicked in the balls

[Can...you...help]

Originally posted by Darth Shredder:

i don't know , ghost mode is locked behind that stupid arcade quest garbage, gotta waste my time playing there so it unlocks ghost AI mode

whoever decided to lock ghost mode behind arcade quest needs to get kicked in the balls

it's because arcade quest is a mode interesting for all player, like a big tutorial

[Maxaemon]

Yo, update... I'm loosing all battles in online ranked at 1st dan.. yeah, dont bother "training" against ghosts from leaderboards, its worth nothing.

[Can...you...help]

Originally posted by Maxaemon:

Yo, update... I'm loosing all battles in online ranked at 1st dan.. yeah, dont bother "training" against ghosts from leaderboards, its worth nothing.

yes it's useless for teh first week or two, the time the ghost pick up the player playstyle at his real level

[Anestesia]

I mean... The game isn't even a day old xD What do you expect? They are mostly doing practice and ranked, not training ghosts XD

Give it enough time for the AI to pick enough data to make a statement like that

[b34stm1lk]

Just beat a ghost with the rank of Tekken King definitely too easy.

[Maxaemon]

lol guys.. AI needs time? nah, i heard the same with demo and most said the same, ghost plateu hard fast.. they useless, 1h or 1000h of data doesnt matter. they dont learn indefinetaly, there is a limit for sure and its hit quite fast imo.

[Can...you...help]

Originally posted by Maxaemon:

lol guys.. AI needs time? nah, i heard the same with demo and most said the same, ghost plateu hard fast.. they useless, 1h or 1000h of data doesnt matter. they dont learn indefinetaly, there is a limit for sure and its hit quite fast imo.

tbh in the demo my kazuya got quite good, it's still ai but it picked up wht i do very well, very good to see patern and learn to counter play, will never replace a human but is really good

[Dante]

I tried ULSANs ghost and it was a nightmare lol

[HeisenBurger]

Originally posted by Darth Shredder:

i don't know , ghost mode is locked behind that stupid arcade quest garbage, gotta waste my time playing there so it unlocks ghost AI mode

whoever decided to lock ghost mode behind arcade quest needs to get kicked in the balls

It unlocks pretty early, as soon as you finish the first little tournament you can go to the final round arcade. It's strange that it doesnt unlock right away but it doesnt take long at least.

[xunlaiAgent]

Originally posted by Napo:

They don't have enough training data. It will be interesting to come back in a year or more when the pros will have hundreds of matches against every character. It will never replace human players but imo the ghosts can get pretty good already.

Maybe with machine learning you could try to imitate human play style... But hard to say.