Anti-Cheat

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Because Tekken 7 was bound to each platform, we never had any incentive for an anti-cheat on the PC version, but with Tekken 8 being cross-play across all platforms, i am hoping so so much that we won't be having those auto block and auto duck cheating monkeys anymore.

Tekken 8 needs that anti-cheat, or it'll be bad.

[progste]

Pretty sure there are cheaters on playstation too... (though crossplay can be turned off)
I don't want cumbersome anti-cheat software like some other games where it requires low level access to your PC and hinders linux compatibility.
A "block player" button would be nice though.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by progste:

Pretty sure there are cheaters on playstation too... (though crossplay can be turned off)
I don't want cumbersome anti-cheat software like some other games where it requires low level access to your PC and hinders linux compatibility.
A "block player" button would be nice though.

oh, no no, it doesn't have to be incompatible with Linux, alot of games managed to make it work already thanks to steamdeck also being on Linux.
anti cheat is required, and it has nothing to do with crossplatform play being optional.

i'm so sick and tired of cheaters, being forced to endure a set and then add them to a blacklist is not the solution.
banning them entirely is, though.
forcing them to play without cheats is the way to go.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by progste:

Pretty sure there are cheaters on playstation too... (though crossplay can be turned off)
I don't want cumbersome anti-cheat software like some other games where it requires low level access to your PC and hinders linux compatibility.
A "block player" button would be nice though.

oh, no no, it doesn't have to be incompatible with Linux, alot of games managed to make it work already thanks to steamdeck also being on Linux.
anti cheat is required, and it has nothing to do with crossplatform play being optional.

i'm so sick and tired of cheaters, being forced to endure a set and then add them to a blacklist is not the solution.
banning them entirely is, though.
forcing them to play without cheats is the way to go.

still, blacklist is a big thing, the moment you spot someone who's blatant you can at least enjoy not being matched up with them again

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

oh, no no, it doesn't have to be incompatible with Linux, alot of games managed to make it work already thanks to steamdeck also being on Linux.
anti cheat is required, and it has nothing to do with crossplatform play being optional.

i'm so sick and tired of cheaters, being forced to endure a set and then add them to a blacklist is not the solution.
banning them entirely is, though.
forcing them to play without cheats is the way to go.

still, blacklist is a big thing, the moment you spot someone who's blatant you can at least enjoy not being matched up with them again

it's better than nothing but still no solution to stop cheaters yknow?

[SEATEK The_LEFTY]

There is another side to that though- People abusing the blacklist feature to stop from losing.

People cheat on console just as much as on PC. Action Replays are a thing, Modded controllers are a thing, Macros from both are a thing. You can do a Google Search and in 15 minutes find script and macro sets for PS4.

I worry that we are headed for the same experience as Tekken 7- heck, it may even be worse.

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There is another side to that though- People abusing the blacklist feature to stop from losing.

People cheat on console just as much as on PC. Action Replays are a thing, Modded controllers are a thing, Macros from both are a thing. You can do a Google Search and in 15 minutes find script and macro sets for PS4.

I worry that we are headed for the same experience as Tekken 7- heck, it may even be worse.

anyone with the toxic mentality of blacklisting people who are better than them was never worth playing in the first place

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Gonna be honest there is a frame where ducking goes into wr before it goes into neutral guard, so baiting out the low can be advantageous once you know how to fake it out which usually d,u or d,uf or d,ub attack can set the autoscript up for a CH.

There will be a blacklist feature so that should help.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There is another side to that though- People abusing the blacklist feature to stop from losing.

People cheat on console just as much as on PC. Action Replays are a thing, Modded controllers are a thing, Macros from both are a thing. You can do a Google Search and in 15 minutes find script and macro sets for PS4.

I worry that we are headed for the same experience as Tekken 7- heck, it may even be worse.

the blacklist feature is limited to prevent cherry picking issues not that that will be an issue any time soon with crossplay and the new game popularity for the next 1-2+ years.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

still, blacklist is a big thing, the moment you spot someone who's blatant you can at least enjoy not being matched up with them again

it's better than nothing but still no solution to stop cheaters yknow?

well Thinking about it for quite some time there isn't a way to discern a macro from a properly timed attack.
the best bet is to lock account stats to online encryption so when you have a rank reset or modify the files it resets them back to what they should be ending the ez smurf issue.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There is another side to that though- People abusing the blacklist feature to stop from losing.

People cheat on console just as much as on PC. Action Replays are a thing, Modded controllers are a thing, Macros from both are a thing. You can do a Google Search and in 15 minutes find script and macro sets for PS4.

I worry that we are headed for the same experience as Tekken 7- heck, it may even be worse.

i genuinely hope that anti-cheat will happen.
Sure, the PS4 had cheaters, too, but you really cannot compare the amount between the platforms, especially with the scripting on PC.
macros may forever live on, but at least we'd get rank cheaters and auto-duck/dash/block using scrubs out of the way with a decent anti-cheat.

and now that crossplay is involved, and sony being kinda strict with the standards games should have (and they're sponsoring Ash), i'm pretty sure they already demanded a good anti-cheat from bamco.

at least that's what i'm hoping for.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

Originally posted by SEATEK The_LEFTY:

There is another side to that though- People abusing the blacklist feature to stop from losing.

People cheat on console just as much as on PC. Action Replays are a thing, Modded controllers are a thing, Macros from both are a thing. You can do a Google Search and in 15 minutes find script and macro sets for PS4.

I worry that we are headed for the same experience as Tekken 7- heck, it may even be worse.

i genuinely hope that anti-cheat will happen.
Sure, the PS4 had cheaters, too, but you really cannot compare the amount between the platforms, especially with the scripting on PC.
macros may forever live on, but at least we'd get rank cheaters and auto-duck/dash/block using scrubs out of the way with a decent anti-cheat.

and now that crossplay is involved, and sony being kinda strict with the standards games should have (and they're sponsoring Ash), i'm pretty sure they already demanded a good anti-cheat from bamco.

at least that's what i'm hoping for.

Well here is the thing You can program steam controller options to enable macros
you can literally have it set to f*d,f on a button. I use 2+3 for the DS5 touch pad so I can press u+2+3 so i can set up with ss and hit people with the katana when they are dazed and dumbfounded.

Its more or less down to player choice these days due to platforms supporting mapping options for various games.

I just want another button close to hand for 2+3 I don't want to cheat my way to Kwd

(nor do i want a overpriced DIY buildabear Jstick)

But yes having a memory editor would cause more issues that scripting auto bs hopefully will be stopped.

I dont mind stage mods or costume mods that don't desynch I don't have any myself.
But scrips that play for you need to go the way of extinction when it comes to the FGC.

[Kitai]

you do know crossplay doesnt mean anything right, the console players dont want pc crossplay because most of the time pc players are the ones cheating aka ruining the fun by using cheats like auto block and impossible combo moves ect.

tekken 7 had losers who ruined the fun for all,
costume and stage mods are different as they wont work on console(since you have to download these from a unofficial site)

anti cheats are always needed on all games.

on playstation its impossible to use any mods aka cheats online as everythings offline only since sony learned their lesson in 2011,
but that doesnt mean those morons who use 3rd party modded controllers wont be using them which again isnt against the tos as its hardware mod an actual cheats,
but it still scumbag move to use them on any platform.

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Kitai:

you do know crossplay doesnt mean anything right, the console players dont want pc crossplay because most of the time pc players are the ones cheating aka ruining the fun by using cheats like auto block and impossible combo moves ect.

tekken 7 had losers who ruined the fun for all,
costume and stage mods are different as they wont work on console(since you have to download these from a unofficial site)

anti cheats are always needed on all games.

on playstation its impossible to use any mods aka cheats online as everythings offline only since sony learned their lesson in 2011,
but that doesnt mean those morons who use 3rd party modded controllers wont be using them which again isnt against the tos as its hardware mod an actual cheats,
but it still scumbag move to use them on any platform.

I debate impossible combo moves, cause late game experience wise you can play insanely fast in this game. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xtwRkEUesxc?feature=share
https://youtu.be/lE3CEWDm67g I base my game speed on Cheese Yoni, I plan to eventually be even faster.

Yes hardware peripheral mods are against both the TOS and Eula on Sony Playstation consoles as well as any other platform.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

i love how the mishimas always have extremely high damage output.
and people cry about every little miniscule nerf they receive, smh.

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

Originally posted by Kitai:

you do know crossplay doesnt mean anything right, the console players dont want pc crossplay because most of the time pc players are the ones cheating aka ruining the fun by using cheats like auto block and impossible combo moves ect.

tekken 7 had losers who ruined the fun for all,
costume and stage mods are different as they wont work on console(since you have to download these from a unofficial site)

anti cheats are always needed on all games.

on playstation its impossible to use any mods aka cheats online as everythings offline only since sony learned their lesson in 2011,
but that doesnt mean those morons who use 3rd party modded controllers wont be using them which again isnt against the tos as its hardware mod an actual cheats,
but it still scumbag move to use them on any platform.

I debate impossible combo moves, cause late game experience wise you can play insanely fast in this game. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xtwRkEUesxc?feature=share
https://youtu.be/lE3CEWDm67g I base my game speed on Cheese Yoni, I plan to eventually be even faster.

Yes hardware peripheral mods are against both the TOS and Eula on Sony Playstation consoles as well as any other platform.

you can play fast once you learn a character's ins and outs and practiced execution to the point of pulling it off with ease, sure.
but what is your highest rank in 7, and why is speed the one thing you care about most?

[S☯wn-Lﺤuꁅhtǝr]

Originally posted by Prismatic Lollipop:

i love how the mishimas always have extremely high damage output.
and people cry about every little miniscule nerf they receive, smh.

Originally posted by Sown-Laughter:

I debate impossible combo moves, cause late game experience wise you can play insanely fast in this game. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xtwRkEUesxc?feature=share
https://youtu.be/lE3CEWDm67g I base my game speed on Cheese Yoni, I plan to eventually be even faster.

Yes hardware peripheral mods are against both the TOS and Eula on Sony Playstation consoles as well as any other platform.

you can play fast once you learn a character's ins and outs and practiced execution to the point of pulling it off with ease, sure.
but what is your highest rank in 7, and why is speed the one thing you care about most?

openings pokes and more flashy things is my focus . I play tekken like its a brawler.