Copycat overvalued?

[alexshiro]

Or have I just not found the synergy for it?

I just got offered a ninja, chose random skillup and got a spellblade, both feel like downgrades on the Lost they replaced

[KingOfCharge]

Ninja is a downgrade if you have nothing that makes her an upgrade, but if you have something good to copy she can be really strong.
Spellblade is better with nothing than ninja and probably nor a downgrade, but scales really well with items.

[alexshiro]

what would you say is worth copying with ninja? can't think of anything worth copying on the good t2s. There's some engages, self shields, self heals and mana gains, but with 1 pip it's not worth it imo. both might be cool if they had 2 pips on some of those sides, not worth it in the best case as they are imo

[KingOfCharge]

Originally posted by alexshiro:

what would you say is worth copying with ninja? can't think of anything worth copying on the good t2s. There's some engages, self shields, self heals and mana gains, but with 1 pip it's not worth it imo. both might be cool if they had 2 pips on some of those sides, not worth it in the best case as they are imo

Knight steel. Shield on ninja, 4 damage

[Russian Roulette Wheel]

Mana gain is pretty good on ninja too. It's not exactly exciting, but it's something. Charge is good from Sparky. Vulnerable is good, you can get that from somebody else holding harpoon. Bloodlust from scrapper is good. You can get cantrip from bard. Lots of stuff for ninja to get copycat value from. Steel from knight is the best though.

[Zeel Ara]

Copying double hit can turn into a lot of damage if you slap an item or two on the ninja.

[DaviddesJ]

Lost is 3 HP, right? Good dice sides but low health is a big weakness.

[KingOfCharge]

Yes. Lost has t2 sides and t0 health, which fits a t1.

[Kyle Katarn]

Copycat can be insane with era, duel, the one that does more damage depending on incoming damage etc. In general it gets more powerful the more keywords your other characters have

[DaviddesJ]

Copycat on the Chaos Wand is absurdly powerful. Of course, the Chaos Wand is already absurdly powerful -- that's how I most often get 1-round boss kills.

[CrabNicholson]

Copycat can be good, but only if you find a way to combo it.

One neat thing you can do is use dual-use on one character, then use an ability with copycat on another character. This will get you a second use from that copycat, but before you use the second charge, you use a different ability (such as mana gain) and then the second charge on copycat will switch to mana gain.

Copycat can also become cantrip if a cantrip fires during the rolling phase.

If you have some way to ramp up the pips on a copycat ability, then it can become a really strong carry ability. I had a sharpshoot that had on their right-side ranged attack 4 pips and triplet, and then I was double-shotting it + mana gaining it. So that's 24 damage + 12 mana when the combo goes off. Came in clutch versus the Hand. Though that character was kind of busted anyways and I probably would have won even if I didn't get off my crazy combo.

[Enora]

It can become totally broken with the right classes and items.
Here with a Jump + Sushi on a Spell blade together with the reroll cantrips on Sphere, i almost killed The Hand without playing a single dice on Hard
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3243780290

[Catteus Of Mars]

one of the classes has "random word" on its attacks some of em are stupid OP like "add DEATH" and the like so if you copy that your set :)

[DaviddesJ]

If you combine cantrip and copycat then you're really swinging for the fences, for sure!

[Logovore]

Era is just one good example of something to copycat.