Mask of the Rose

Mask of the Rose

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Melusena Jun 13, 2023 @ 6:51pm
Missing two achievements-hints appreciated
Hi all!

I have played many, many playthroughs, and need two more achievements to pop, Reunion which I am guessing has something to do with May and Moss, and perhaps forgiveness being granted? and also Baptism, which I am guessing has something to do with the rats and the church. Regarding this achievement, I have already done every type of baptism of Algernon, had Ferret become the rat prophet-king, etc., so if I am missing something or completely going in the wrong direction, any advice would be appreciated.

Any hints, or direct instructions, at this point, would be appreciated, with the number of fruitless playthroughs I have had trying to get these last two. Thanks!
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Chillaxing Jun 13, 2023 @ 9:00pm 
For the Baptism achievement, I got it by insisting that I join baptism with Ferret, and the rats made me "one with the swarm", so to say.

On that note, may I ask for help with some of the other achievements? I can see that neither of us got Reunion, but I'd like to know how to get Ascension, Confessor, Suited and Booted, and Acceptance.
Melusena Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:15pm 
Edited to include Reunion since I unlocked it today.

Thanks! I just unlocked that one!

Alright, so one by one, in order of difficulty (imho).
Suited and Booted requires you to get all the main chest pieces and hats (Algernon not included), easiest way to do that, I have found, is by filling censuses quickly by going to places with multiple people at once to interview (the Landau's/Synagogue, the Devil's Townhouse, etc). Turn them in, buy all items you don't have off of Ivy and Ferret.

Confessor can only happen during the season of Confessions. You need to ask Horatia if she needs anything, and select the "kindness" option. Buy a mask from Ivy, hear a confession from a housemate.

Ascension and Acceptance are related and very plot heavy, so whole next section is in spoilers.

Acceptance requires you to completely solve the murder mystery. You need to complete a theory about the culprits that includes Phoebe, Milton, and arsenic candles. There are multiple ways to do this, I can give you a more detailed explanation if needed. Turn in the completed theory to Harjit, see the scene play out in court.

For the ascension achievement, you need the same information as for Acceptance, but in addition you need to be on good enough terms with Milton and have enough time to also do another quest chain for him. You need to have made contact with your Rubbery friends and have them show him where he died in the 4th city. If you do this, and then complete the theory and turn it in to Harjit, the courtroom scene will be very different.

Reunion: Alright, *deep breath* This ending blew my mind, so going to try not to spoil it as much as possible but give general guidance. The main players here are Harjit, Archie, Moss, and May. You need to do 3 tasks related to Harjit (follow him disguised, find out what happened to Lucian, and then prop up the memory). Then, this is the super important part, you need to indicate, either after the arrest scene, or by bringing a theory to Harjit, that our boy Archie may have done the deed. This opens up a new line of querying for you to theorize about. Make a theory with this tidbit, wait for Moss, visit May and make sure to choose the new options you now have with him. You still need to present a theory of Archie's guilt to Harjit, even if it is not accurate. Events won't take place until the court scene. .

Last edited by Melusena; Jun 14, 2023 @ 10:01am
Chillaxing Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:53pm 
Hmm, I did a playthrough buying all the hats and costumes from Ivy and Ferret (granted I did get some as friendship gifts like the black suit) but I didn't get the achievement. Do I need to specifically buy them or am I doing something wrong?
Melusena Jun 14, 2023 @ 12:19am 
I don't think you need to buy them. I would make sure you get the chest and hat items for both masc/fem from Ivy though, academic gown, apron, black coat, prison jumper, wig, admiral hat, servant cap (not the actual name but I forget), gentry cloak, sailor uniform. I think that is all of them, but it was a few playthroughs ago that I unlocked it so I am not sure.
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Express Jun 14, 2023 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Melusena:
Acceptance requires you to completely solve the murder mystery. You need to complete a theory about the culprits that includes Phoebe, Milton, and arsenic candles. There are multiple ways to do this, I can give you a more detailed explanation if needed. Turn in the completed theory to Harjit, see the scene play out in court.

I somehow got this solved on my very first playthrough but cannot for the life of my again figure out how I found out about the candles . Do you remember? Some of my screenshots indicate it was Ferret but they never delivered any such info again after the first time.
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luke.alford Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:05am 
Originally posted by Melusena:
Acceptance requires you to completely solve the murder mystery. You need to complete a theory about the culprits that includes Phoebe, Milton, and arsenic candles. There are multiple ways to do this, I can give you a more detailed explanation if needed. Turn in the completed theory to Harjit, see the scene play out in court.

I swear I've had acceptance work with David and Phoebe instead of Milton.
I'm sure the court scene goes differently, but I have the achievement.
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Express Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by luke.alford:

I swear I've had acceptance work with David and Phoebe instead of Milton.
I'm sure the court scene goes differently, but I have the achievement.

I think the point is merely to get the right person, even if you don't do it 100% correct way - I fumbled my investigation a little bit, yet Milton kind of revelaed themselves as a part of it on their own, which was really strange considering the only evidence was word of mouth.
Last edited by Express; Jun 14, 2023 @ 6:24am
Melusena Jun 14, 2023 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Express:
Originally posted by Melusena:
Acceptance requires you to completely solve the murder mystery. You need to complete a theory about the culprits that includes Phoebe, Milton, and arsenic candles. There are multiple ways to do this, I can give you a more detailed explanation if needed. Turn in the completed theory to Harjit, see the scene play out in court.

I somehow got this solved on my very first playthrough but cannot for the life of my again figure out how I found out about the candles . Do you remember? Some of my screenshots indicate it was Ferret but they never delivered any such info again after the first time.

You can get method from several people if you have everything filled in but unknown method and unknown motive. For Ferret, you have to have asked them about their illegal side hustles first, I believe. You can also confront Milton about methods if you have him as a motivator and he will tell you. You can ask Rachel about methods if you appeal to her sense of justice. Phoebe will even tell you if you have already convinced David to talk to you. He will do this if you are on decent terms and also promise to bring the culprit to justice no matter what.
Melusena Jun 14, 2023 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by luke.alford:
Originally posted by Melusena:
Acceptance requires you to completely solve the murder mystery. You need to complete a theory about the culprits that includes Phoebe, Milton, and arsenic candles. There are multiple ways to do this, I can give you a more detailed explanation if needed. Turn in the completed theory to Harjit, see the scene play out in court.

I swear I've had acceptance work with David and Phoebe instead of Milton.
I'm sure the court scene goes differently, but I have the achievement.

Yep! I think you may be right. I did that ending first so it must have triggered then. It probably just didn't feel as just to me haha.
Chillaxing Jun 14, 2023 @ 2:11pm 
Okay, I'm... probably greatly misunderstanding the requirements for Reunion. Do I need to have just any "Archie guilty" theory in my inventory in the second half for it to work? Or just point out his skills at poisons during arrest? What kind of point is needed for new May dialogue? I'm so confused T^T
Melusena Jun 14, 2023 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Chillaxing:
Okay, I'm... probably greatly misunderstanding the requirements for Reunion. Do I need to have just any "Archie guilty" theory in my inventory in the second half for it to work? Or just point out his skills at poisons during arrest? What kind of point is needed for new May dialogue? I'm so confused T^T

You need to have "maybe he did do it" as a thought after the arrest, which then triggers an option to select something along the lines of "the masters may have altered him." This gives a clue "was not himself" as motive.
luke.alford Jun 16, 2023 @ 2:49am 
Is there anything particular that needs to be done to follow Harjit? I've seen other people get the option, but I've never succeeded in the game offering it itself? Is it just because I trust him too much or am I missing something?
Express Jun 16, 2023 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by luke.alford:
Is there anything particular that needs to be done to follow Harjit? I've seen other people get the option, but I've never succeeded in the game offering it itself? Is it just because I trust him too much or am I missing something?

I'm guessing, but it MIGHT have to do with diguising yourself with Ferret's wig.
avesornithes Jun 17, 2023 @ 8:33pm 
Does anyone know how to trigger the option to follow Harjit? I've been trying to get the Reunion achievement, and have the wig disguise, but haven't been able to figure out how to get the option. Is there some precondition that you need to do before unlocking it?
Last edited by avesornithes; Jun 17, 2023 @ 8:35pm
Chillaxing Jun 18, 2023 @ 3:17am 
Originally posted by avesornithes:
Does anyone know how to trigger the option to follow Harjit? I've been trying to get the Reunion achievement, and have the wig disguise, but haven't been able to figure out how to get the option. Is there some precondition that you need to do before unlocking it?
With the new update you first need to wait until the game prompts you to check if anyone needs anything. After that, you’ll need a way to get his “silently realize what relationship I want with him”, and there should be an option along the lines of ‘wonder if there’s more to Harjit’, which unlocks the trail mission.
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