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Mad Hatter Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:05am
I don't understand the obsession with co-op
Maybe I'm just exceptionally antisocial, but I really don't get it. Pretty much every game that comes out, the forums are flooded with "is it co-op?" threads. Can nobody enjoy anything solo anymore? Why is everyone so damn hypersocialized?
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PizzaCrunch Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:09am 
People like playing stuff with their friends.
Sophie Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:19am 
You can still play games solo, just many of us want to play things co-op as well. Considering that we can customize our train and such, I don't see a reason why we shouldn't have co-op tbh
Mad Hatter Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:21am 
The dev has said since the beginning that he has no intentions of implementing co-op, yet you all still howl for it.
Urban Zamboni Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:32am 
thats sad. use your brain to talk to other humans. its easy. just make noises with your mouth.
INTRICATE Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
The dev has said since the beginning that he has no intentions of implementing co-op, yet you all still howl for it.
I find the people who whine over the co op people are much much worse than those who whine for co op. You people are in every game discussion complaining as much as they are. At least they're complaining for progress. You're just complaining because you have the right to.
Ice Jester Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
Maybe I'm just exceptionally antisocial, but I really don't get it. Pretty much every game that comes out, the forums are flooded with "is it co-op?" threads. Can nobody enjoy anything solo anymore? Why is everyone so damn hypersocialized?

The game would have been perfect to play in co-op. If you had friends you would surely understand that!
Scream Dec 9, 2022 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
The dev has said since the beginning that he has no intentions of implementing co-op, yet you all still howl for it.

I mean, you said it yourself: you could be exceptionally antisocial.

There's a reason why games with any sort of multiplayer are typically more popular: as already stated, people like playing with friends. Look at the stats for Steam - of the top 25 most played games currently, only one (Football Manager) is completely single player.

For me, it's a combination of two things:
1.) If something really funny/cool happens, it is always much more enjoyable to have someone else there to share it with. I know some people love to travel by themselves, for instance, but those experiences to me feel hollow unless I have someone that I can share that with and recount it. That expands into entertainment for me, too.

2.) As I - and my friends - get older, it's harder to find time to spend together in person. Playing games together is the solution to that. It's how we keep in touch without needing to plan a month or two out in advance.

When I saw CCC had released, my first thought was to text my buddy and say we should get it... until I saw one of the first reviews saying it was single player only.

With story heavy games and with some roleplaying games, I get it: the experience is often better by yourself and efforts towards making it multiplayer tend to take away from the efforts put into the game otherwise... but this game screams "dumb fun with friends," and it's a heavily missed opportunity for passing up on that aspect of the market.
Gardien Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:14am 
For some ppl it's funny to share a scary game.

Like it was fun for me to play deadspace 3 with a friend who was really scared, it even give more stress.

But yeah here it seems not really possible, if one is driving and the other shooting it will not be the same stress as being alone.
Master Blaster Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:23am 
single player games are from lazy dev's who want to make a quick buck and not expert coders that can make a great game...in fact they are so lazy they didnt even develop this forum with pins lol...who the f would want this game.
Last edited by Master Blaster; Dec 9, 2022 @ 9:24am
Mad Hatter Dec 9, 2022 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by Scream:
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
The dev has said since the beginning that he has no intentions of implementing co-op, yet you all still howl for it.

I mean, you said it yourself: you could be exceptionally antisocial.

There's a reason why games with any sort of multiplayer are typically more popular: as already stated, people like playing with friends. Look at the stats for Steam - of the top 25 most played games currently, only one (Football Manager) is completely single player.

For me, it's a combination of two things:
1.) If something really funny/cool happens, it is always much more enjoyable to have someone else there to share it with. I know some people love to travel by themselves, for instance, but those experiences to me feel hollow unless I have someone that I can share that with and recount it. That expands into entertainment for me, too.

2.) As I - and my friends - get older, it's harder to find time to spend together in person. Playing games together is the solution to that. It's how we keep in touch without needing to plan a month or two out in advance.

When I saw CCC had released, my first thought was to text my buddy and say we should get it... until I saw one of the first reviews saying it was single player only.

With story heavy games and with some roleplaying games, I get it: the experience is often better by yourself and efforts towards making it multiplayer tend to take away from the efforts put into the game otherwise... but this game screams "dumb fun with friends," and it's a heavily missed opportunity for passing up on that aspect of the market.
tl;dr - didn't need an essay explaining why you can't handle being alone
Buntkreuz Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:10pm 
I tried to explain that another person the other day.
Short version:
There are over 120 million unique users on steam from across the globe.
Its pretty weird to believe that only you or your interests are represented on Steam Forums.
On top: Coop Games or Multiplayer Games in general, are the most popular ones with the highest user counts.
The other fact is, there is a huge dark figure of people not using the forums at all or being aware of them.
So theoretically you would even see more of these threads.

The likeliness that only 10 of the 120 million Steam Users (even if you factor in that its "only" 80% playing multiplayer games) are requesting a multiplayer mode, is incredibly high.
Its the rule of the masses.

Singleplayer Purists often believe they are the majority, because they create most of the threads on a singleplayer game. But they ignore that people are A: multi-interested and thus would play SP and MP and B: That the far larger group just doesnt swarm the forum.
Raw data shows though, "the Singleplayers", if we take it in a simplistic and undifferentiated way, are a far far smaller group of people.

Solution:
Moderation. Fuse several of these threads to one, so the requests are more focussed.
Last edited by Buntkreuz; Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:14pm
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
Originally posted by Scream:

I mean, you said it yourself: you could be exceptionally antisocial.

There's a reason why games with any sort of multiplayer are typically more popular: as already stated, people like playing with friends. Look at the stats for Steam - of the top 25 most played games currently, only one (Football Manager) is completely single player.

For me, it's a combination of two things:
1.) If something really funny/cool happens, it is always much more enjoyable to have someone else there to share it with. I know some people love to travel by themselves, for instance, but those experiences to me feel hollow unless I have someone that I can share that with and recount it. That expands into entertainment for me, too.

2.) As I - and my friends - get older, it's harder to find time to spend together in person. Playing games together is the solution to that. It's how we keep in touch without needing to plan a month or two out in advance.

When I saw CCC had released, my first thought was to text my buddy and say we should get it... until I saw one of the first reviews saying it was single player only.

With story heavy games and with some roleplaying games, I get it: the experience is often better by yourself and efforts towards making it multiplayer tend to take away from the efforts put into the game otherwise... but this game screams "dumb fun with friends," and it's a heavily missed opportunity for passing up on that aspect of the market.
tl;dr - didn't need an essay explaining why you can't handle being alone


I love how you double down on showing how truly dumb you are. No wonder you can't make friends, you can barely be bothered to read whats in front of you. Do you have to layer paper towels on your keyboard to stop the drool from ruining the keys? Is there a special keyboard you use or do you just monkey slam your hands down until you get what you want? Sweet christ you are pathetic.

"I don't understand the obsession with co-op "

I think that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of things you don't understand lol.
Last edited by The Electric Mindset; Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:21pm
Rodrigo Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:28pm 
Why do you feel like you need to understand? I hate elden ring, aka dark soul 4 and just because it's a success I don't need to ponder why is that.
Moosey Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Mad Hatter:
Maybe I'm just exceptionally antisocial ... Why is everyone so damn hypersocialized?

You are the one with a problem, not everyone else.
AlyMane Dec 9, 2022 @ 1:40pm 
Finished the game (btw loved it!). Would`ve been even better/more fun playing with my husband (who games right next to me).
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