DLCs

[graalGGTV]

Why are there 2 DLCs in the list before the game has even been released? Only the demo is available so far, but they already have DLCs waiting for the release date? I don't understand

[sandcastles]

[Revan]

Just wondered the same and came here to see if theres a topic about it.

[verdigris]

because it's a 3 or 4 year old mobile game

[4lx]

Yeah unwishlisted as soon as i saw it. Its mobile trash making its way to our beloved platform. Hope it dies a faithful death as soon as it launches.

[verdigris]

to be fair it's a pretty good mobile game... just saying it's not "brand spankin new" which is likely why it already has listed dlc

[graalGGTV]

I've never even seen mobile games with DLC, so that doesn't really justify it, in my opinion. They should just release the game in its current state, it makes no sense to have DLCs on day 1.

[Hobbes]

If you read what the dlc is, it looks like planned content. Doesnt seem different from when Season Passes are shown other than you can actually see what the content is; which I think is a positive thing.

[Noelll]

Hi guys! So I'm gonna address some of these comments.

Outlanders launched on Apple Arcade on 2019. The game has had a pretty good life on mobile and since a lot of our community members enjoyed it so much we decided to make the game available for other platforms as well. This doesn't mean we just ported the game to PC. The game has been reviewed and worked on for months and months to give the best PC experience as possible. We want to give PC players a PC game.

About the content and DLCs, our team works to make continous updates for Apple Arcade, these updates take months to develop since they bring to the game a new story, new characters, new levels and even new mechanics. We need to be able to continue working, thus why we make them DLCs. We are a small studio, everything you see in the game is meticulously curated.

I understand it can be confusing. I can answer all the questions you have!

[graalGGTV]

Originally posted by Hobbes:

If you read what the dlc is, it looks like planned content. Doesnt seem different from when Season Passes are shown other than you can actually see what the content is; which I think is a positive thing.

I don't think those are season pass DLCs, as they are both marked to come out on Q1 2023, which ends about 20 days after release, so it's obviously content that already exists even before the release, and they are choosing to release them as DLCs, instead of including them in the base game.

I don't really know what the price of the game and DLCs will be, so I can't really comment on that, but in my opinion, having DLCs from day 1 never reflects well on the game, regardless of being a port or not

[Swisspike]

Originally posted by graalGGTV:

Originally posted by Hobbes:

If you read what the dlc is, it looks like planned content. Doesnt seem different from when Season Passes are shown other than you can actually see what the content is; which I think is a positive thing.

I don't think those are season pass DLCs, as they are both marked to come out on Q1 2023, which ends about 20 days after release, so it's obviously content that already exists even before the release, and they are choosing to release them as DLCs, instead of including them in the base game.

I don't really know what the price of the game and DLCs will be, so I can't really comment on that, but in my opinion, having DLCs from day 1 never reflects well on the game, regardless of being a port or not

I agree 100%. I would rather pay a slightly higher price for the base game, and get a game that is more complete.

The ONLY reason a developer would have day one DLC's is to milk their customers for more money. That's the ONLY reason.

Hard pass for me on this one. HARD PASS.

[Noelll]

The content was already made, yes.
There are two main reasons why it is a DLC and not part of the base game:

1. These two content updates are significantly different from the base game and with each other. They are set in totally different environments and have completely separated stories.

2. It is content we made to be something like a content expansion for players. It's not the same as the base game itself. You can get the base game and if you are still up for more levels and such, you can get this. The experience you get with the base game is not interrupted and you don't actually NEED the DLCs to continue getting that. It's just an expansion for those who want that. We will continue working on these kind of updates (that we call Chronicles) overtime.

[Noelll]

Also, I would like to say that this is our first PC game, so we are kind of in a learning process. We love these comments that make us reflect on our situation, so any feedback is welcomed.

[Issie721]

Originally posted by Noelll:

Also, I would like to say that this is our first PC game, so we are kind of in a learning process. We love these comments that make us reflect on our situation, so any feedback is welcomed.

Good..cause Im not a nice person when it comes to giving feedback about a game that has too many issues. This game is super unbalanced. Are you aware that there is next to 0 explanation of anything and that the townspeople dont do a thing either. They die. I dont understand how other games can make it so easy to pick berries, give orders to characters, and progress fine with plenty of food. Your game seems to be the only game Ive seen where they cant respond to commands to do anything and if they do on the rare occasion....there are never enough resources. If its meant to be this complicated....then idk who can play it. People with no lives maybe. But as an adult with a job and family...I cant sit here for hours and hope some pixelated people do as I say and survive. I LIVE with small humans who dont listen to me...making me hope to God they survive each day lol. So please....make it easy on the stressed adults with stressful lives ok?

[F A T B $ $ $ R T D]

Originally posted by Noelll:

Also, I would like to say that this is our first PC game, so we are kind of in a learning process. We love these comments that make us reflect on our situation, so any feedback is welcomed.

look, dont throw out DLCs even before the game comes out like that, only makes people hate u
people are sick of this shid everywhere,
the other bigger companies can get aawy with bs like this is because they are big
but u are small
dont do it
if u want extra $, release cosmetic or OST or things like that

[fiendish_thingie]

Originally posted by novaruby26:

Originally posted by Noelll:

Also, I would like to say that this is our first PC game, so we are kind of in a learning process. We love these comments that make us reflect on our situation, so any feedback is welcomed.

Good..cause Im not a nice person when it comes to giving feedback about a game that has too many issues. This game is super unbalanced. Are you aware that there is next to 0 explanation of anything and that the townspeople dont do a thing either. They die. I dont understand how other games can make it so easy to pick berries, give orders to characters, and progress fine with plenty of food. Your game seems to be the only game Ive seen where they cant respond to commands to do anything and if they do on the rare occasion....there are never enough resources. If its meant to be this complicated....then idk who can play it. People with no lives maybe. But as an adult with a job and family...I cant sit here for hours and hope some pixelated people do as I say and survive. I LIVE with small humans who dont listen to me...making me hope to God they survive each day lol. So please....make it easy on the stressed adults with stressful lives ok?

Wow admitting you're not a nice person when reviewing something that someone else spent hours working on? Entitled much. It's okay to just not enjoy a game. You can just put it down and find another one. No need to go on a rant about how you can't figure out the controls.

Originally posted by F A T B A S T A R D:

Originally posted by Noelll:

Also, I would like to say that this is our first PC game, so we are kind of in a learning process. We love these comments that make us reflect on our situation, so any feedback is welcomed.

look, dont throw out DLCs even before the game comes out like that, only makes people hate u
people are sick of this shid everywhere,
the other bigger companies can get aawy with bs like this is because they are big
but u are small
dont do it
if u want extra $, release cosmetic or OST or things like that

DLC is literally supposed to be what these devs just explained. Extra content for people who want it, and for people who don't want it to be able to skip. Big companies shouldn't get away with it - they have billions of imaginary dollars to throw at things. Small devs don't have those resources, and often end up in the negative financially. So maybe just either buy it or don't. Announcing that DLC will exist isn't shady, it's good planning.