Sailwind

Sailwind

VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 5:29am
Hard time surviving in this game...
I'm beginner obviously. So far earned ~1300 reputation. Visited 4 different islands. Didn't buy anything useful except rod with a single hook which I hardly know how to use with benefit.

The problem is that I need to pay for food and water very much the same as I earn in this world. By day 13 I finally died of thirst. Technically I still had 10 lions in my pockets which I had to spend for more water in Gold Rock before started my voyage to the Alchemist's Island but I thought that last 9 sips I had should be enough. That's not the point however. The problem, again, is that I need to pay for food and water as much as I earn.

Need to count that in the beginning I had starting 60 lions, crate of cheese and barrel of water. Without that I would die almost instantly. In several days all that is gone. I had to purchase a crate of Tuna for 87 lions and very cheap water (22). In fact I bought 5 barrels of water thinking to sell 4 of them with almost 100% profit. However I found only 3 barrels after paying for 5. Anyway, again, it's not the problem, just explaining what I faced. I have finished the full crate of Tuna probably in 2 trips. I was travelling the market of Golden Rock thinking what I will eat the next day when I found someone selling... paintings...

The largest amount of lions I ever had is 157. 87 of that went for the crate of Tuna. I can probably say now why I bought only 3 water barrels, because I had no money for 5. Even though the receipt says 5.

One possible problem is that I still don't know how to use the rod. The other potential problem is that I need to use the anchor to sleep, and so I loose some time not sailing in every trip. There is hardly possibility in this game to sleep while sailing, at least with the equipment I have in the beginning.

With 4 contracts now I could probably do better than with 3. Still... am I missing something?
Last edited by VDmitry; Dec 22, 2024 @ 5:38am
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Seudal Dec 22, 2024 @ 8:54am 
This game is really discouraging for beginners and seriously lacks balance.
For the fishing rod, you have to hold right click then release the rod once completely backwards. When it bites, you have to reel with the mouse wheel but stop if the rod starts to shake.
You can sleep while sailing, but time passes a little slower than docking or anchored.
For trading, you have to watch the prices and otherwise it's mostly grind, grind, grind...
Thundercracker Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:02am 
first off, while al' ankh is the easiest region to sail in, it's actually the hardest region to navigate and trade in. if you're still less than a month in-game, you may as well restart into emerald or aestrin if you feel comfortable sailing now.

i never never use the anchor. no need to stop if you know about how far you'll go in sleep, and your ship can hold a course without you on the wheel. if you're worried about overshooting your target, reef your sails before you sleep to reduce max speed. in my view, though, time stationary is money wasted. i'd rather be moving towards my destination at 1 knot than anchored.

i'm probably going to have to make a video tutorial to explain the rod. but let me attempt in text. unlike most fishing in video games, in sailwind fishing is kind of actually based on real life. it's not reeling in the line that actually pulls the fish closer, it's the tension in the rod itself.

before you start reeling, once you have a bite, make sure you're centering your view on the horizon. i reel until the top eye on the rod (the loops that the line passes through,) is bent such that the line between the top and next to top eyes is parallel with the horizon. then, i stop reeling, and let the rod straighten up. repeat the process until the fish breaks water. you'll know it counts because at that point, no matter how much you reel, your rod wont bend fully into position.

you can even get the fish to break the surface from any range in rough enough seas.

fishing in sailwind is super easy, it's just very different to the fishing video games have conditioned us for all of our lives, lol.
VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Seudal:
You can sleep while sailing, but time passes a little slower than docking or anchored.
For trading, you have to watch the prices and otherwise it's mostly grind, grind, grind...

Originally posted by Thundercracker:
first off, while al' ankh is the easiest region to sail in, it's actually the hardest region to navigate and trade in.

i never never use the anchor. no need to stop if you know about how far you'll go in sleep, and your ship can hold a course without you on the wheel. if you're worried about overshooting your target, reef your sails before you sleep to reduce max speed. in my view, though, time stationary is money wasted. i'd rather be moving towards my destination at 1 knot than anchored.

As I mentioned the most money I had in 12 first days is 157 lions. It's hard to trade much with that. You can't even start trading until you get some rep.

The problem with anchor/sleep is that I can't risk travelling at sleep. This may cost you more than you save. You can loose your target. You can fully lost at sea and get to the wrong island or worse etc. Beside need to rest there are nights, which often better to spare with sleep on anchor for all the same reasons.

Just right now it's stormy night and I better anchor and sleep than sail.

Right now I have started to die to earn money. This also cost something, but not much. But I can avoid buying food and water.
Last edited by VDmitry; Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:22am
Mr.Crazy Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:17am 
Maybe I got a good head start but here's some tips. Your starting ship can easily hold 500 weight, it gets a bit iffy nearing 800-1000. So don't do just 1 or 2 missions, stock the ship full. I don't know how you are consuming that much food but don't buy the barrels and crates of food too early, you can easily survive off of the starting food and water and stock up on cheap food the vendors give. In the early game check the way the wind is blowing for what place you want to trade and do missions at, like if the wind is blowing from south west, then move along a north west, or south east route. I mainly use gold rock as a base of operations to go to and from to make navigation and planning easier. Don't do trading too early, you can still rely on missions
Last edited by Mr.Crazy; Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:17am
VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:20am 
Regarding rod... At first I believe I need to get hooks. I had one and lost it without success.

My first attempt to fish was a disaster at open sea. It looked like the rod became an anchor then fully jumped into sea. I had to use real anchor and swim to save my rod.
Last edited by VDmitry; Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:27am
VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:25am 
Originally posted by Mr.Crazy:
Maybe I got a good head start but here's some tips. Your starting ship can easily hold 500 weight, it gets a bit iffy nearing 800-1000. So don't do just 1 or 2 missions, stock the ship full. I don't know how you are consuming that much food but don't buy the barrels and crates of food too early, you can easily survive off of the starting food and water and stock up on cheap food the vendors give. In the early game check the way the wind is blowing for what place you want to trade and do missions at, like if the wind is blowing from south west, then move along a north west, or south east route. I mainly use gold rock as a base of operations to go to and from to make navigation and planning easier. Don't do trading too early, you can still rely on missions

Sorry, but it's not allowed to do more than 2 missions at start. Right now I have limit of 4 and of course I'm using that and also trade IF I have money (And I normally don't).

I definitely survived may be first week or so with starting food and water. But not more than that. It takes 1-2 days on simplest trips. With maximum of 2 missions you can't do too much in the first week.

What is cheap food? You probably mean options at market on some islands. I'm not sure if it's cheap. For example water costs 2, but it's 1/12 of the barrel. 24 is rather normal cost for water barrel. Crate of Tuna for 87 I mentioned wasn't the cheapest, but I had not much options beside dying. That was the best option I found. It's 20 Tuna in the crate, so about 4+ per piece. Costly but not to say very much. And I'm beginner while the game doesn't show precisely how much is there and how much calories it provides etc. So I had to try to see.

I once tried to buy rotted fish at market and put it to my empty crate. Bought may be 8 pieces. In the end some of it seemed spoiled. And to achieve the goal I have to bring the crate with me to the market. Otherwise I'm not getting how to bring these pieces to the ship one by one. My inventory is normally busy and even full inventory is still small.
Last edited by VDmitry; Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:37am
Thundercracker Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
The problem with anchor/sleep is that I can't risk travelling at sleep. This may cost you more than you save. You can loose your target. You can fully lost at sea and get to the wrong island or worse etc. Beside need to rest there are nights, which often better to spare with sleep on anchor for all the same reasons.
well now you know why al' ankh is the hardest region to navigate. in any other region, you cannot possibly overshoot a target so far in one sleep that you're actually lost. outside of al' ankh, pretty much every port in the game is visible at least a full day's sailing away.

and if something is visible a day away, a quarter of a day, max, is not going to put you outside of visual range.

i sleep at night, but also sail through the night.

Originally posted by VDmitry:
What is cheap food? You probably mean options at market on some islands. I'm not sure if it's cheap. For example water costs 2, but it's 1/12 of the barrel. 24 is rather normal cost for water barrel. Crate of Tuna for 87 I mentioned wasn't the cheapest, but I had not much options beside dying. That was the best option I found. It's 20 Tuna in the crate, so about 4+ per piece. Costly but not to say very much. And I'm begineer while the game doesn't show precisely how much is there and how much calarories it procides etc. So I had to try to see.

I once tried to buy rotted fish at market and put it to my empty crane. Bought may be 8 pieces. In the end some of it seemed spolied. And to achieve the goal I have to bring the crate with me to the market. Otherwise I'm not getting how to bring these pieces to the ship one by one. My inventory is normally busy and even full inventory is still small.
raw fish is as cheap as it goes, as the only possible cost outside of the initial investment of a rod is the possibility of losing a hook.

you can survive off of 2-3 raw fish a day (incidentally, keeping your water topped off is about ten sips a day.) with the addition of having to maintain nutrition, you can probably get by just buying a fruit in port every other day or so.
Mr.Crazy Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
Originally posted by Mr.Crazy:
Maybe I got a good head start but here's some tips. Your starting ship can easily hold 500 weight, it gets a bit iffy nearing 800-1000. So don't do just 1 or 2 missions, stock the ship full. I don't know how you are consuming that much food but don't buy the barrels and crates of food too early, you can easily survive off of the starting food and water and stock up on cheap food the vendors give. In the early game check the way the wind is blowing for what place you want to trade and do missions at, like if the wind is blowing from south west, then move along a north west, or south east route. I mainly use gold rock as a base of operations to go to and from to make navigation and planning easier. Don't do trading too early, you can still rely on missions

Sorry, but it's not allowed to do more than 2 missions at start. Right now I have limit of 4 and of course I'm using that and also trade IF I have money.

I definitely survived may be first week or so with starting food and water. But not more than that. It takes 1-2 days on simplest trips. With maximum of 2 missions you can't do too much in the first week.

What is cheap food? You probably mean options at market on some islands. I'm not sure if it's cheap. For example water costs 2, but it's 1/12 of the barrel. 24 is rather normal cost for water barrel. Crate of Tuna for 87 I mentioned wasn't the cheapest, but I had not much options beside dying. That was the best option I found. It's 20 Tuna in the crate, so about 4+ per piece. Costly but not to say very much.

I once tried to buy rotted fish at market and put it to my empty crane. Bought may be 8 pieces. In the end some of it seemed spoiled. And to achieve the goal I have to bring the crate with me to the market. Otherwise I'm not getting how to bring these pieces to the ship one by one. My inventory is normally busy and even full inventory is still small.
I'm fairly new to this game as well so I cant analyze what exactly is wrong, best thing is to just keep learning(beating your head against the wall) about how the game works, took me 10 hours of playing and making new saves to finally understand how to navigate and how to earn money. Ill just throw random tips in hopes you suck the information in.
Use Gold Rock as a beacon to help navigate. Be aware of the wind and tack against it. While you are tacking it may look like you are not moving, but you are. Never go straight towards the wind unless you are transitioning a tack. Use landmarks and your compass to know where you are, like if you're west of gold rock and north of neverdin, then draw a mental line from those directions and that's where you are. Try and over stay your sleep, like if you know where you are going and what direction you want to maintain, stay awake for a couple more minutes then anchor and sleep. Some missions are worth more than others choose the ones that are worth more and carry less crates and weight.
Last edited by Mr.Crazy; Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:50am
VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 9:52am 
Yep, I use everything of that.

There are only 2 things I'm not using: rod and sailing at sleep.
VDmitry Dec 22, 2024 @ 11:27am 
No, seriously, I don't know how to sleep on sails...

Just now set sails from Alchemist's Island to Al`Nilem. Got NW course, reached the line connecting Lion's Fang with Golden Rock when the night came. So I decided to sleep for a change. Wonder what happened? I rammed Isle of the Clear Mind...
Last edited by VDmitry; Dec 22, 2024 @ 11:27am
Mr.Crazy Dec 22, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
No, seriously, I don't know how to sleep on sails...

Just now set sails from Alchemist's Island to Al`Nilem. Got NW course, reached the line connecting Lion's Fang with Golden Rock when the night came. So I decided to sleep for a change. Wonder what happened? I rammed Isle of the Clear Mind...
Try and stay up a bit longer, then anchor and sleep. I'm just confused on how you cant afford food and water easily, are you doing decent missions and getting all you can?
KnightlyKestrel Dec 22, 2024 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by VDmitry:
No, seriously, I don't know how to sleep on sails...

Just now set sails from Alchemist's Island to Al`Nilem. Got NW course, reached the line connecting Lion's Fang with Golden Rock when the night came. So I decided to sleep for a change. Wonder what happened? I rammed Isle of the Clear Mind...

I'm not very good at advice like this, but I will try to help.

First, lets break down what happened. using the interactive map (https://moffkalast.github.io/Sailwind-Map/), and drawing lines based on what you described, you sailed about 26 Nautical Miles while awake, before sleeping. you then went a further 30-ish nautical miles while asleep, thus hitting the isle of clear mind.

This puts you roughly 16 NM south by south-east of Al'Nilem. not bad. presuming you are not beached, you can use the island to identify your location, and continue on.

Now, to prevent future sleep-related accidents. as someone mentioned previously, you can 'reef' (partially fold) your sails, to better control your speed - perhaps running the dhow (Al'Nilem's starter vessel) at half-mast while asleep would help you get accustomed to it.

Also, since i don't think it was mentioned here: 'locking' the helm prevents your ship from doing its (fairly good) auto-course keeping - great for turning, bad for trying to go in a straight line.

as for Identifying where you are afterwards, as has been said previously Al'Nilem is THE hardest region to navigate within - however there is still something you can do - as mentioned before, you can get a rough estimate of your location by looking at Gold Rock, since it it visible from the entire region (except Oasis, that comes later).

and as for conserving food/water: do not fill your bar up 100%, since any excess is wasted (As far as I know).

one last thing, my strategy for fishing: slowly reel the rod in, trying to balance it to keep it in partial tension. if it starts to shake IMMEDIATELY 'reel out' (scroll up by default) until it stops shaking, otherwise you will loose the fish and your hook.
As for getting fish to bite, that's a waiting game.

Good luck, and don't give up!
Mr.Crazy Dec 22, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
I'm still learning things, didnt know without the wheel locked its good while going straight, thanks man
Last edited by Mr.Crazy; Dec 22, 2024 @ 1:14pm
RebelCobra Dec 22, 2024 @ 6:05pm 
I would recommend watching a YouTuber named Dalton Reutlinger. He covers the game a lot on his channel and has numerous series and tutorial videos you can watch.
Cop Unit 12 Dec 22, 2024 @ 8:06pm 
Al ankh has the best starter boat and good free trade opportunity at the cost of having the hardest navigation and worse starting currency's. While late game Emerald is the worse currency Al ankh currency leaves no room for error early in the game unlike Emerald or Aestrin.

Let me give some basic advice for Al ankh.

The Dhow (al ankh starter boat) can handle 1 sculpture and provisions (1 box of food and 2 water barrels). If you see a sculpture mission you can take it as they are often very valuable, just use some extra caution when doing it. Half sail in rough waves and you should be fine kind of caution.

Oasis is the best place to sail to. Once you get mission access to it (I swear it's rank 2) do it and only it. It makes a good bit of coin at very little effort due to the lighthouse. The return journey is a bit of a pain due to the trade winds but manageable.

Al' Nilem has high value mission cargo and I do highly recommend you go there for the first few missions. Just watch how much weight you put onto your boat. Al' Nilem has mission cargo of copper which is HIGHLY valued everywhere and weighs a lot so it pays very well.

The Academy also has good mission cargo but it is the smallest island in the game thus making it a real pain as a new player and a non real world sailor. If you ever miss the Academy, find - go near Al' Nilem and then sail directly north on the east side of Al' Nilem and you'll never miss the Academy ever again.

Neverdin can mostly be ignored as there is very little value there as they don't request much nor send much out.

Alchemist island can have some high value missions to it but are not frequent. Alchemist island is much better once you get money for snake oil so you can sleep while on long ocean journeys.

Albacore town is good for lamb but so is Oasis. It has some good high number of boxes missions but is overall like Neverdin. Do it if you want or the economy is all messed up.

For buying food, buy what you can at the start of the game though I suggest cheese or tuna in Albacore town since its cheapest there. But once you can afford it. Lamb, Pork, Eel and oranges are the best foods in the game. Each one respectively can fill the food bar by 90%, 90%, 70%, 40% per food item. It will save you money and time more then you think. Bananas are a decent option but the box they come in is massive so use it at your own risk.

There are many more things but this is the basics and I'm way past the starting days so I'll need to start once again and remind myself on the basics but this "should" help you mostly.
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