is my speed reading wrong or the distanses?

[konstantinoskountousias]

from fort Aestrin to Dragon Clif with Sanbug with tailwind most of the time and speed 6-9 knots i made it in 8 days and half. the distance is about 870 miles but if my reading is right i sould be covering at least 170 miles per day, like 7 knots average. So i sould have done it in 5 days. And i never stoped or lost the wind....

[boris.glevrk]

yeah uh... there's some trouble regarding the translation from knots to "miles".

I *think* this is how it works:
1 "in-game mile" is internally known as 1 "km", and is actually equal to 100 meters if scaled against the player.
1 "knot" is 1.852 "km"/h.
1 in-game day is 50 minutes IRL

so for example, I covered 870 "mile" in 6.5 days at 7-9 knots
9 nmi per hour x 5/6 = 7.5 nmi per 50 minutes, i.e. per in game day
7.5 x 6.5 days = 48.75 "actual" nmi covered in 6.5 in-game days
48.75 x 1.852 = 90.285 "actual" km covered in 6.5 in-game days
1 "in-game km" is 100m instead of 1000 IRL so 90.285 actual km x 10 = 902.85 in-game km = 902.85 in-game mile.

Considering I will have some deviations, plus I'm not 9 knots all the way, I'd call that fair.

[tyrswrath]

shame internally there even is references to the metric system.

measuring speed in knots combined with measuring distance in nautical miles (1.852km) would make things so much easier, especially considering that 1 degree of latitude should equate to 60 miles. i.e. going 6 knots for 10 hours would cover 1 degree, making it quite 'easy' maths to plan trips give or take a few days for storms, unfavorable winds etc.

Things do seem to feel a bit 'off' in terms in time and distance, then again with the time compression factors and all included I imagine it is always a challenge to some 'degree' to balance it right crossing larger distances vs having a realistic experience once near the islands/docks and not fly by them with the same amount of time compression.

[eRaz0rHead]

Yeah - I'm confused about my recent Aestrin to Dragon Bay run. According to my measurements, I'm stuck at the 35th, even though the Brig is doing 4-6 knots at the angle of wind I've got.
I've tried changing the angle, bearing more to the East/West to get more sail but it's much slower going than I thought it would be (maybe going faster in a lateral direction isn't fast enough to make up for the slow southerly pace).

Thing is, I seem to have had better luck with previous updates (with the Brig), but having sailed the other two big boats, I can't really see why I'd bother with the Brig any more.
I mean, I love the extra storage and living quarters.. where else can I put a 4-poster bed... but I think there has to be some mechanical advantage to the brig for it to be worth it, and even with full sails to the rear, I rarely hit more than a couple of knots more than the Al'Ankh boat, it seems.. Could be I'm just a bad sailor too. That's entirely possible ;)

[konstantinoskountousias]

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

shame internally there even is references to the metric system.

measuring speed in knots combined with measuring distance in nautical miles (1.852km) would make things so much easier, especially considering that 1 degree of latitude should equate to 60 miles. i.e. going 6 knots for 10 hours would cover 1 degree, making it quite 'easy' maths to plan trips give or take a few days for storms, unfavorable winds etc.

Things do seem to feel a bit 'off' in terms in time and distance, then again with the time compression factors and all included I imagine it is always a challenge to some 'degree' to balance it right crossing larger distances vs having a realistic experience once near the islands/docks and not fly by them with the same amount of time compression.

well i agree with all and if the devs want to keep the map big just make the ships slower or add a no wind weather condition like the opposite of storms

[Fuinelen]

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

shame internally there even is references to the metric system.

Internally I'd say it definitely makes sense, as metric is WAY less of a hassle than imperial.

[tyrswrath]

Fuinelen lähetti viestin:

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

shame internally there even is references to the metric system.

Internally I'd say it definitely makes sense, as metric is WAY less of a hassle than imperial.

conversion/relation between speed, time and distances and degrees on a globe is much easier when sticking to nautical miles and knots (nautical miles an hour).

[boris.glevrk]

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

Fuinelen lähetti viestin:

Internally I'd say it definitely makes sense, as metric is WAY less of a hassle than imperial.

conversion/relation between speed, time and distances and degrees on a globe is much easier when sticking to nautical miles and knots (nautical miles an hour).

well, not if that globe is made by unity. I think unity uses metric?

[tyrswrath]

boris.glevrk lähetti viestin:

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

conversion/relation between speed, time and distances and degrees on a globe is much easier when sticking to nautical miles and knots (nautical miles an hour).

well, not if that globe is made by unity. I think unity uses metric?

well, guess the tools people need to work with come with their own set of 'provided' and 'have nots' :D

[boris.glevrk]

tyrswrath lähetti viestin:

boris.glevrk lähetti viestin:

well, not if that globe is made by unity. I think unity uses metric?

well, guess the tools people need to work with come with their own set of 'provided' and 'have nots' :D

Well, in any case I don't think any software tool has nautical units built in.... so in any case I think the conversion has to be done anyway.

Plus, modern nautical mile is defined as exactly 1852 meters, so... it's actually no longer defined by earth...

[tyrswrath]

boris.glevrk lähetti viestin:

Plus, modern nautical mile is defined as exactly 1852 meters, so... it's actually no longer defined by earth...

afaik there is no 'modern' or 'historical' nautical mile, it's just a nautical mile. It just happens to equate to 1852 meters in metric units (which came about much later!).

When you get somewhat more deeply into spherical geometry and charts it'll become more clear how the degrees and minutes on a map relate to nautical miles, and when used in speeds like knots make for a handy way of figuring out planning (i.e. time). It is still widely used to date in both nautical and aeronautical planning and measuring.