Wind Prediction?

[Paracalico]

Finally got my Brig, but the square rigs kinda need ±75degrees downwind, or the speed can be stupidly low. the wind sometimes not going in my favor during long-range urgent missions and that's really annoying. Are there any rules about the wind in game, like trade winds?

[boris.glevrk]

Well, there's a reason why Brig is often considered the slowest ship, and why it's put in Aestrin i.e. the "hard" area.

The Brig simply won't make an urgent (1/3 normal time limit) mission upwind. You need to record the prevailing wind and make sure it's in your favor, and pray that you don't encounter the exception.

[Thundercracker]

at least one user reports that the prevailing wind across the entire map is from the northeast:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1764530/discussions/0/3194742149932235073/

i've seen a few other users report the same, but there are also outliers reporting prevailing winds from the west, as well.

edit: wrong copy/paste for the url

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

at least one user reports that the prevailing wind across the entire map is from the northeast:

It's most definitely not. Prevailing winds in Al'Ankh, Aestrin and west of Happy Bay are all from the west or south.

Edit, also the area between the new island and the rest of the world. Wind is constantly from the west/ south west.

[Paracalico]

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Well, there's a reason why Brig is often considered the slowest ship, and why it's put in Aestrin i.e. the "hard" area.

The Brig simply won't make an urgent (1/3 normal time limit) mission upwind. You need to record the prevailing wind and make sure it's in your favor, and pray that you don't encounter the exception.

Yes I found that too... The wind was in favor from the very start but it changed dramatically from day2 and it took me 6 days from fort aestrin to happy bay going upwind. Maybe it's better to sail in my sambuq again and again.

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by Paracalico:

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Well, there's a reason why Brig is often considered the slowest ship, and why it's put in Aestrin i.e. the "hard" area.

The Brig simply won't make an urgent (1/3 normal time limit) mission upwind. You need to record the prevailing wind and make sure it's in your favor, and pray that you don't encounter the exception.

Yes I found that too... The wind was in favor from the very start but it changed dramatically from day2 and it took me 6 days from fort aestrin to happy bay going upwind. Maybe it's better to sail in my sambuq again and again.

A Junk would take about the same amount of time anyway, so... not too bad actually.

[Paracalico]

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

at least one user reports that the prevailing wind across the entire map is from the northeast:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1764530/discussions/0/3194742149932235073/

i've seen a few other users report the same, but there are also outliers reporting prevailing winds from the west, as well.

edit: wrong copy/paste for the url

Yes quite so, but I was sailing from Asterin to Dragon Cliffs and the wind forced me to sail straight towards SE to at least put those square rigs into operate. doing so it's actually sailing off course and still very slow for like 5-6kts. If I'm in a junk or sambuq it will be possible, so maybe just because square rigs suck.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

at least one user reports that the prevailing wind across the entire map is from the northeast:

It's most definitely not. Prevailing winds in Al'Ankh, Aestrin and west of Happy Bay are all from the west or south.

Edit, also the area between the new island and the rest of the world. Wind is constantly from the west/ south west.

perhaps you missed the part under the link: "i've seen a few other users report the same, but there are also outliers reporting prevailing winds from the west, as well."

it may be that prevailing winds are generated on a user by user basis.

but yes, my original statement stands because you are reporting winds from the west. you may just be an outlier.

[Paracalico]

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Originally posted by Paracalico:

Yes I found that too... The wind was in favor from the very start but it changed dramatically from day2 and it took me 6 days from fort aestrin to happy bay going upwind. Maybe it's better to sail in my sambuq again and again.

A Junk would take about the same amount of time anyway, so... not too bad actually.

Actually half the way was done in day 1, was stormy with wind from west. Quite lucky that day but the remaining days was pure suffer.

[RaptorMother]

someone in the discord datamined the wind prevalence in different world regions.

It boils down to a kind of clockwise tradewind situation. Going from Emerald archipelago to al'ank will have favourable wind, so will going from al'ank to aestrin. However, Aestrin to emerald isles is not so favourable, as the wind is the same that blows from the south-west. Keep in mind that this is just a *percentage modifier* on the wind, and wind can and will still randomly change even with this prevalence (especially in the northern side of the map)

[Paracalico]

Originally posted by RaptorMother:

someone in the discord datamined the wind prevalence in different world regions.

It boils down to a kind of clockwise tradewind situation. Going from Emerald archipelago to al'ank will have favourable wind, so will going from al'ank to aestrin. However, Aestrin to emerald isles is not so favourable, as the wind is the same that blows from the south-west. Keep in mind that this is just a *percentage modifier* on the wind, and wind can and will still randomly change even with this prevalence (especially in the northern side of the map)

That's true, random stuffs seems taking a huge part in wind generation. My first sail from emerald to asterin was under favorable wind during almost the whole progress, maybe just all luck but I guess there can be something periodically. Since there's no calendar in game I guess it's kinda hard to find the rules. Maybe I'll try to stay on a spot for like 30 days to find it out, but it's gonna be really boring though...

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by Paracalico:

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

at least one user reports that the prevailing wind across the entire map is from the northeast:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1764530/discussions/0/3194742149932235073/

i've seen a few other users report the same, but there are also outliers reporting prevailing winds from the west, as well.

edit: wrong copy/paste for the url

Yes quite so, but I was sailing from Asterin to Dragon Cliffs and the wind forced me to sail straight towards SE to at least put those square rigs into operate. doing so it's actually sailing off course and still very slow for like 5-6kts. If I'm in a junk or sambuq it will be possible, so maybe just because square rigs suck.

Square rigs suck---pretty much, but remember, 5-6 kts is basically Junk's speed at calm upwind as well.

[Paracalico]

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Originally posted by Paracalico:

Yes quite so, but I was sailing from Asterin to Dragon Cliffs and the wind forced me to sail straight towards SE to at least put those square rigs into operate. doing so it's actually sailing off course and still very slow for like 5-6kts. If I'm in a junk or sambuq it will be possible, so maybe just because square rigs suck.

Square rigs suck---pretty much, but remember, 5-6 kts is basically Junk's speed at calm upwind as well.

I was at the minimum possible angle for square rig to operate, actually it wasn't upwind at all, junks in such an angle will be able to go under almost full speed tho... And in case of Junk's minimal possible sailing angle, Brig can only crawl with 2-3kts or even lower...

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by Paracalico:

Originally posted by boris.glevrk:

Square rigs suck---pretty much, but remember, 5-6 kts is basically Junk's speed at calm upwind as well.

I was at the minimum possible angle for square rig to operate, actually it wasn't upwind at all, junks in such an angle will be able to go under almost full speed tho... And in case of Junk's minimal possible sailing angle, Brig can only crawl with 2-3kts or even lower...

Well, yeah, because in that case, you'll be comparing Brig with stay sails and gaff sail only, versus Junk with full sails...