First Infinite

[Melestav]

Hevelius + 3 or more Sentinel Empower + Solar Plexus + Lacertian Mask is an easy infinite.

Just keep using 3 self corrupt Virtue to refresh Rearm Virtue on your Sentinel. It then heals you back to full and reactivates the corrupt virtue for a loop. Clear enemies when you roll Area Purify.

[supercardproman]

Oh, I got that done with that Hyper Sensitive Aura stuff too (double purification and corruption). As long as you can make your first virtue deal 6 corruption and heal yourself back to full with your sentinel while also dealing damage, it's an auto-win.

[Little Leo Games]

Ahhh so cool. Thanks so much for sharing <3

By the way, I dont see it as problem at the moment, since finding the Lacertian Mask is not easy, also needs to find the right dice.

But if players start thinking that any Infinity is too easy we can always nerf it.

Keep bringing them!! xD

[Little Leo Games]

Originally posted by supercardproman:

Oh, I got that done with that Hyper Sensitive Aura stuff too (double purification and corruption). As long as you can make your first virtue deal 6 corruption and heal yourself back to full with your sentinel while also dealing damage, it's an auto-win.

This is fun too, but maybe too easy to pull it off?

[Melestav]

Not necessarily a problem, just amused to stumble into a "true" infinite so early in progression - the "looping" nature of Virtues makes me think it may be somewhat more commonplace than other similar games.

[supercardproman]

How would a nerf to that work, making that Corruption virtue reach 6 can be done in many ways and any well strentghened sentinel with boost would do the trick.

[Melestav]

Adding a few encounter mechanics that heavily punish Virtue looping could be an indirect nerf. There is one that adds Doom to random targets whenever you Virtue, but that doesn't do anything if you're infinite.

[supercardproman]

Well it's a Havelius problem in the end so if there's something to be done, it should feel fun like for example a rearm limit that destroy your sentinel if you keep rearming it too much so that the destroy sentinel build have something new while the reinforce sentinel build would be able to push up that limit with dice actions for example.

[Izunyami]

I'm glad you're not going to just instant nerf infinites. Half the fun of games like this is finding loopholes and infinite combos. As long as it isn't too easy of course!

[Little Leo Games]

Hey Izunyami =D
The design behind all Astrea is "let the players just be happy" hahahahah
So if we see a broken mechanic, if it is fun and not that easy to reproduce we just let in the game we dont nerf. I agree with you, the fun of roguelikes is breaking the game =D

Anyhow, I dont know how exactly would nerf the hypersenstive aura + corrupt 3 virtue infinite loop, but dont want to put too much limitations, maybe just change hypersenstive aura to appear on level 5 sentinels only, this would make this infinite a little bit harder, but still possible.

[Nixmachine]

Just got my first infinite with this one, with Unstable Cog for the Hypersentitive Aura. Kinda sad to see it being nerfed in the future tbh, but I'll respect the dev's decision