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VulpineMachine 2024 年 9 月 30 日 下午 1:39
Woke or nah?
If someone uses the term "woke" as an unironic criticism will they like this game or will they find fault with it?
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LouisKM124 2024 年 9 月 30 日 下午 2:20 
This game's far from woke
Apollo 2024 年 9 月 30 日 下午 4:15 
Not at all.
lozza_dearnley 2024 年 9 月 30 日 下午 10:10 
I don't like "woke" things as they usually emphasise "the message" over making an enjoyable game, and I don't find this one "woke" at all. I assume you're concerned about the, um, "rainbow people" present in the game but that doesn't make a game woke by default just to have a gay character.

It's a male prison with around 45 inmates - statistically if this was real life, some of them are bound to be gay. Only Chris and Roy are obviously gay as far as I can tell on my 2nd playthrough and they're not treated as being better or worse than anyone else.
歐克斯 2024 年 10 月 1 日 上午 7:51 
引用自 lozza_dearnley
It's a male prison with around 45 inmates - statistically if this was real life, some of them are bound to be gay. Only Chris and Roy are obviously gay as far as I can tell on my 2nd playthrough and they're not treated as being better or worse than anyone else.

In fact, the characters with pink dialogue boxes represent those who like men, so currently, there are three cellmates who are gay: Ray, Chris, and Whitey
lozza_dearnley 2024 年 10 月 1 日 上午 8:43 
引用自 In fact, the characters with pink dialogue boxes represent those who like men, so currently, there are three cellmates who are gay: [spoiler
Ray, Chris, and Whitey[/spoiler]
I did notice the pink text box, but I didn't even notice Whitey was pink, so that must answer the question of whether or not its a prominent feature of the game.
Baron Drawyvern 2024 年 10 月 1 日 下午 9:11 
引用自 歐克斯
In fact, the characters with pink dialogue boxes represent those who like men, so currently, there are three cellmates who are gay: Ray, Chris, and Whitey

Other than those three inmates, there's one more character who has pink dialogue,
Billy the Deputy Guard, and him being gay is confirmed if you sneak into guard house at night and check his locker.
deoxxys 2024 年 10 月 5 日 上午 6:33 
Woke isn't a problem, DEI IS.

I like plenty of games with woke elements. It's DEI that makes games bad. Basically when woke elements are forced because the company is getting grant money (from companies like Blackrock) to artificially add that stuff and often their employees are also DEI hires.

Creative freedom and passion for creating games is what matters.
Garahel 2024 年 10 月 5 日 上午 11:06 
引用自 deoxxys
Woke isn't a problem, DEI IS.

I like plenty of games with woke elements. It's DEI that makes games bad. Basically when woke elements are forced because the company is getting grant money (from companies like Blackrock) to artificially add that stuff and often their employees are also DEI hires.

Creative freedom and passion for creating games is what matters.

woke and DEI are synonymous. the 2 are the same thing. Gays do not equal woke.

to OP: there's gays in this but it's not woke. Where else would you find gays if not in prison who wanna touch your butt when you drop the soap? Think of old TV shows like Oz. There's gays but not gay propaganda. In fact the game makes it clear that these are some weird individuals through the little emoji reactions.
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deoxxys 2024 年 10 月 5 日 下午 4:02 
In an ideal world, no being gay isn't woke but with how much woke is overused, it means something different to everyone. Just look at "Woke Content Detector" curator list. They have Dark Souls in there because of Gwyndolin and an item you can use to change genders.

That's why I prefer to standardize things by highlighting DEI as the problem, because It can be measured as something tangible that forces in artificial changes and is generally helmed by people that make products so sterile and safe that they're afraid to make villains act bad.
lozza_dearnley 2024 年 10 月 5 日 下午 8:22 
I did notice that the evil Mayor is supposed to be Donald Trump, which got a little bit of an eyeroll from me (why is he even human? Shouldn't he be an animal like everyone else?). It's not a major part of the game and the game itself is still great, but it is obviously the devs being cheeky and dipping their toes into the political debate.

Personally, I'd much prefer the mayor be an animal on full release (same with the human news broadcaster). Maybe a peacock or something, to imply he's spoilt and rich. Or a snake! Otherwise, go in the other direction and make him a squirrel, hoarding more money than he can ever spend, or a Dodo bird, just to be ridiculous.

I'd usually suggest a "fat cat" but they used that in the boxing ring sub-plot. Can't even really have a pig as the cooks are pigs.
Guardian Hero 2024 年 10 月 21 日 下午 3:11 
I'm playing since 2 hours only.
I'm the type of guy who is VERY anti-woke, and I see zero woke elements.
The game disappoints me though. More linear than what I thought, and I prefer much better the Escapists games.
SamsTheMan 2024 年 10 月 22 日 上午 12:27 
引用自 lozza_dearnley
I did notice that the evil Mayor is supposed to be Donald Trump, which got a little bit of an eyeroll from me (why is he even human? Shouldn't he be an animal like everyone else?). It's not a major part of the game and the game itself is still great, but it is obviously the devs being cheeky and dipping their toes into the political debate.

Personally, I'd much prefer the mayor be an animal on full release (same with the human news broadcaster). Maybe a peacock or something, to imply he's spoilt and rich. Or a snake! Otherwise, go in the other direction and make him a squirrel, hoarding more money than he can ever spend, or a Dodo bird, just to be ridiculous.

I'd usually suggest a "fat cat" but they used that in the boxing ring sub-plot. Can't even really have a pig as the cooks are pigs.
this is you being insecure the mayor is not donald trump he's a corrupt and greedy politician

if you think that makes him donald trump then idk what else to say


To answer your question, the game has a pretty liberal view on prisons and the criminal justice system being flawed and broken, and almost all of the criminals have very sympathetic stories. Woke is ambiguous, but if you consider that woke, then yes it is woke, at least in the messaging
SamsTheMan 2024 年 10 月 22 日 上午 12:27 
引用自 Guardian Hero
I'm playing since 2 hours only.
I'm the type of guy who is VERY anti-woke, and I see zero woke elements.
The game disappoints me though. More linear than what I thought, and I prefer much better the Escapists games.

play more than 2 hours, it isnt linear at all
lozza_dearnley 2024 年 10 月 22 日 下午 9:55 
引用自 SamsTheMan
引用自 lozza_dearnley
I did notice that the evil Mayor is supposed to be Donald Trump, which got a little bit of an eyeroll from me (why is he even human? Shouldn't he be an animal like everyone else?). It's not a major part of the game and the game itself is still great, but it is obviously the devs being cheeky and dipping their toes into the political debate.

this is you being insecure the mayor is not donald trump he's a corrupt and greedy politician

if you think that makes him donald trump then idk what else to say

I want you to follow this link, which is simply the first one on a search for the endings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6HjtMTulM

I want you to skip to 26:08

I want you to come back here and tell me with a straight face that that's NOT meant to be Donald Trump. He has the hair, he has the head forward posture, he has the sagging neck, he has the red tie/white shirt/blue suit combo.

And if you want to delude yourself, well I don't know what else to say. Enjoy delusion.

Personally, I don't like a few random humans in an animal themed game. I wouldn't like if the mayor was meant to be Biden or Kamala or Trump. I don't like real life politics in my video games. And I'm Australian so god knows how sick of it most US citizens are.
Garahel 2024 年 10 月 23 日 下午 8:58 
引用自 lozza_dearnley
引用自 SamsTheMan

this is you being insecure the mayor is not donald trump he's a corrupt and greedy politician

if you think that makes him donald trump then idk what else to say

I want you to follow this link, which is simply the first one on a search for the endings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6HjtMTulM

I want you to skip to 26:08

I want you to come back here and tell me with a straight face that that's NOT meant to be Donald Trump. He has the hair, he has the head forward posture, he has the sagging neck, he has the red tie/white shirt/blue suit combo.

And if you want to delude yourself, well I don't know what else to say. Enjoy delusion.

Personally, I don't like a few random humans in an animal themed game. I wouldn't like if the mayor was meant to be Biden or Kamala or Trump. I don't like real life politics in my video games. And I'm Australian so god knows how sick of it most US citizens are.

I believe that's supposed to be Councilman Jerry, not the mayor. The mayor actually looks like Maduro from Venezuela. The likeness of Donald Trump as a corrupt figure is to be expected since this is a Chinese game and they understandably are not big fans of Trump. However, China is FAR from woke.
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