3DR Staff Name Calling YouTubers

[Funkkeyer]

Hey All!

DO NOT BUY THIS GAME!

Nick who posts here and other 3DR staff like 3D artists are name calling YouTubers. Accusing them of “following the trend” and more.

3DR can’t take any criticism and now they are burning bridges with creators.

Enjoy the proof:

Nick accusing Zlim of following the trend and one of their 3D artists calling Zlim an idiot:
https://i.postimg.cc/7LjCPLJg/02.jpg

One of their 3D artists calling UndertheMayo a clown:
https://i.postimg.cc/fbVthdyz/03.jpg

Ex-3DR Slipgate dev who posted it and the toxicity behind the scenes when he was there:
https://i.postimg.cc/3xS461Kf/IMG-8727.jpg

Oh and where is this all coming from? The Slipgate dev channel on the 3DR server:
https://i.postimg.cc/q7TghFMF/IMG-8728.jpg

They also have attacked Civvie for his video on 3DR. There’s more to share but that’s enough for now.

Zlim couldn’t post his review yesterday because he is caring for his sick grandmother all while Nick accuses him of following trends.

Disgusting.

https://twitter.com/zlimbratski/status/1782754665962070229?s=46

Support your creators and don’t buy this game! Every creator had the same issues of soft locks, crashes, physics flying you out of the map, weapon selection and mod issues and so much more like the busted AI. Watching that one enemy just clip through anything to jump stomp you is embarrassing.

The zeitgeist is that the game is a broken and unfinished mess and it is.

[your evil twin]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again they provided them the keys, regardless you keep a professional they are a business.

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

[catb0mb]

Originally posted by your evil twin:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again they provided them the keys, regardless you keep a professional they are a business.

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

publicly shutting down constructive criticism isn't "bad private behavior". it's creating an echo chamber.

[Agent47]

Originally posted by your evil twin:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again they provided them the keys, regardless you keep a professional they are a business.

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

Considering the half-baked stuff that Slipgate are peddling for a decade+, I don't think it matters what circumstances the namecalling was done in.
The main lesson here isn't "wow they're being mean behind the scenes!", it's to show you how little they care about actually improving in their craft and delivering a good final product. If the flaws of Phantom Fury are sounding at all familiar from their other projects, shouldn't that be a wake-up call to them at this point? They can't take criticism? Boo-hoo, maybe delay games before you release them at a bareboned state.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Agent47:

Originally posted by your evil twin:

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

Considering the half-baked stuff that Slipgate are peddling for a decade+, I don't think it matters what circumstances the namecalling was done in.
The main lesson here isn't "wow they're being mean behind the scenes!", it's to show you how little they care about actually improving in their craft and delivering a good final product. If the flaws of Phantom Fury are sounding at all familiar from their other projects, shouldn't that be a wake-up call to them at this point? They can't take criticism? Boo-hoo, maybe delay games before you release them at a bareboned state.

Also like other releases they just want to point blame. Since it’s them who made a published the game, guess consumers are to blame now. Insert Simpson skinner reference.

[bmF]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Originally posted by Hummel:

"my idols are being manhandeled by these chad devs i need to tell others to not buy the game, do my part and be a good little fanboy"

ok dude. I am still buying. Fk influencers.

♥♥♥♥ them all you want, but you can't do that ♥♥♥♥ publicly as a professional. You can't even react like that towards personal attacks, let alone criticism about your game, of which you gave them copies to review. Agree or disagree, and whatever their personal opinions are, their responses need to be measured.

This was nowhere near "publicly". This was in the staff's private Discord that someone leaked shots of.

Look, I won't stand behind bad or unfinished games, but try to see from the developer's side. Even it there was a case of mismanagement from the higher ups, or lack of clear gameplay design direction, you name it, but a lot of people poured their hearts for months or years into making the game. I guess you can expect their response to be very emotional or in denial to such harsh criticisms - ESPECIALLY among themselves, because, again, this is their private Discord. No one develops a game while saying "haha this looks like crap, let the sh*tshow begin when the reviews get out". They're human beings FFS.

[catb0mb]

Originally posted by bmF:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

♥♥♥♥ them all you want, but you can't do that ♥♥♥♥ publicly as a professional. You can't even react like that towards personal attacks, let alone criticism about your game, of which you gave them copies to review. Agree or disagree, and whatever their personal opinions are, their responses need to be measured.

This was nowhere near "publicly". This was in the staff's private Discord that someone leaked shots of.

Look, I won't stand behind bad or unfinished games, but try to see from the developer's side. Even it there was a case of mismanagement, or lack of clear gameplay design direction, you name it, but a lot of people poured their hearts for months or years into making the game. I guess you can expect their response to be very emotional or in denial to such harsh criticisms - ESPECIALLY among themselves, because, again, this is their private Discord. No one develops a game while saying "haha this looks like crap, let the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ begin when the reviews get out". They're human beings FFS.

the screenshots from my post are public, in the #phantom-fury channel.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by bmF:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

♥♥♥♥ them all you want, but you can't do that ♥♥♥♥ publicly as a professional. You can't even react like that towards personal attacks, let alone criticism about your game, of which you gave them copies to review. Agree or disagree, and whatever their personal opinions are, their responses need to be measured.

This was nowhere near "publicly". This was in the staff's private Discord that someone leaked shots of.

Look, I won't stand behind bad or unfinished games, but try to see from the developer's side. Even it there was a case of mismanagement from the higher ups, or lack of clear gameplay design direction, you name it, but a lot of people poured their hearts for months or years into making the game. I guess you can expect their response to be very emotional or in denial to such harsh criticisms - ESPECIALLY among themselves, because, again, this is their private Discord. No one develops a game while saying "haha this looks like crap, let the sh*tshow begin when the reviews get out". They're human beings FFS.

They do this with every release, they never take any accountability.

[sixsik6]

Originally posted by your evil twin:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again they provided them the keys, regardless you keep a professional they are a business.

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

Hoo boy, there are TONNES of people who now like older games less because it turns out that some of the devs were less than stellar human beings

[Aria Athena]

Originally posted by bmF:

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

♥♥♥♥ them all you want, but you can't do that ♥♥♥♥ publicly as a professional. You can't even react like that towards personal attacks, let alone criticism about your game, of which you gave them copies to review. Agree or disagree, and whatever their personal opinions are, their responses need to be measured.

This was nowhere near "publicly". This was in the staff's private Discord that someone leaked shots of.

Look, I won't stand behind bad or unfinished games, but try to see from the developer's side. Even it there was a case of mismanagement from the higher ups, or lack of clear gameplay design direction, you name it, but a lot of people poured their hearts for months or years into making the game. I guess you can expect their response to be very emotional or in denial to such harsh criticisms - ESPECIALLY among themselves, because, again, this is their private Discord. No one develops a game while saying "haha this looks like crap, let the sh*tshow begin when the reviews get out". They're human beings FFS.

I backtracked in a later comment.

[catb0mb]

Originally posted by sixsik6:

Originally posted by your evil twin:

Erm... why?

Why should gamers care about whether a company's employees have a very corporate, professional business attitude when privately talking amongst each other?

Like... would you like Half-Life or Doom less if you learnt that the developers swore a lot or were rude about journalists?

Hoo boy, there are TONNES of people who now like older games less because it turns out that some of the devs were less than stellar human beings

also I don't think romero or gabe ever said people were idiots for disliking their games, even for something as bad as daikitana was

[Troshnak]

Originally posted by Funkkeyer:

One of their 3D artists calling UndertheMayo a clown:

He is a clown though, haven't you seen his Ultrakill video?

[catb0mb]

Originally posted by Troshnak:

Originally posted by Funkkeyer:

One of their 3D artists calling UndertheMayo a clown:

He is a clown though, haven't you seen his Ultrakill video?

you clearly haven't if your takeaway was that he hates the game, because he doesn't. off topic though.

[GrafOrlockVII]

While the developers have a right to not feel great (and even express such) in the face of real criticisms to a game they've worked on, this is still very disappointing to see. These are youtubers pointing out problems that they've experienced with the game, and the ones I've watched appeared to all make sense backed with evidence. So, to respond to such with petty insults by some of the people who worked on the game, sucks to see. Attacking the people, versus addressing the points of criticism, is a really sad way to go about this. As someone who really love FPS games and had very mixed feelings when playing the demo, this potentially is going to ensure I don't buy this for a very long time. Especially after seeing the releases of Kingpin Reloaded and Graven go the way that they did, this would be a fantastic time to see understanding, taking the constructive and repeating criticisms, and attempting to make it right. How much are these screenshots indicative of the developer studio's thinking/reaction to criticism as a whole? Who knows? But, as someone who wants to try and see both sides (and I've also seen some positive reviews for this game as well, to be fair), it's things like this that give me even less confidence in how this is going to turn out. And I also don't like rewarding immature behavior. So, sure, the devs can say what they want in response to criticisms. But, the critics/youtubers can say what they want in terms of critiques. And I can choose not to buy this game based on my experience with the demo, Slipgate's current track record of underwhelming releases, and now poor behavior in response to critiques. Really is sad to see.

[Agent47]

Originally posted by catb0mb:

Originally posted by Troshnak:

He is a clown though, haven't you seen his Ultrakill video?

you clearly haven't if your takeaway was that he hates the game, because he doesn't. off topic though.

100%.

[Hummel]

Originally posted by LordRetBrick:

Originally posted by Hummel:

"my idols are being manhandeled by these chad devs i need to tell others to not buy the game, do my part and be a good little fanboy"

ok dude. I am still buying. Fk influencers.

Maybe look at reviews so you can make a more informed purchase, you're not owning anyone by choosing to remain uninformed and buying a bad game.
Hell, if you inform yourself and it seems like your kinda thing, do what ya want with your money but don't make bad purchasing decisions in a misled attempt at owning people.

The amount of pain you feel because I dont join your silly hate train is making me feel all fuzzy inside.