Fun game, horrible balance

[Kirashura]

Although I think this would be way better with Deathmatch (which I believe is coming) the main game mode I think is fine, even if it felt like I was mostly running into sweats. My main problem is that the grandma is just way too good. Feels like if a team has 2 and they huddle around together you just can't combat her. Range on her punches is good, and her Ult is an insane buff that HEALS when it really shouldn't. Kinda feels like if you don't have half your team filled with grandmas you're just at a disadvantage, and having a choice dominate that much I feel is kind of abysmal design.

[StaticRD]

yes lets take advice from the anime profile person... This game is pretty balanced just get gud. Theres ways to counter kevin. As of now its very well thought out and balanced but lets wait to see what the other characters can do

[Scarphace]

Its really not balanced when the entire team can play as 1 character and dominate the map, that's a problem in itself along with all the other issues with the maps and mechanics that are more frustrating than fun, audio is ass too. I did start a thread about all the issues but the DEVS/MODERATORS deleted it as it was too much for them clearly to listen to basic criticism and my claim that if they don't make changes before launch and test them then the game will be DOA.

[StaticRD]

Originally posted by Scarphace:

Its really not balanced when the entire team can play as 1 character and dominate the map, that's a problem in itself along with all the other issues with the maps and mechanics that are more frustrating than fun, audio is ass too. I did start a thread about all the issues but the DEVS/MODERATORS deleted it as it was too much for them clearly to listen to basic criticism and my claim that if they don't make changes before launch and test them then the game will be DOA.

your just not very good at the game if your complaining about the entire team playing as only 1 character because playing as only 1 character is actually worse and puts you at a disadvantage than going against a diverse lineup because its far less strategic going up against 4 whatever than going up against a healer a tank and a kevin for example

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"your just not very good at the game if your complaining about the entire team playing as only 1 character because playing as only 1 character is actually worse and puts you at a disadvantage than going against a diverse lineup because its far less strategic going up against 4 whatever than going up against a healer a tank and a kevin for example"


ummm, youre wrong. while being an ass mind you. most the nieghbors have a niche of playstyle. but frankly not a single one is that good at their niche. and i assume this is intended to play into the team nature of the game. however, granny excels at her job. like she pops a button becomes invincible and can wipe a team if she has good positioning. realistically though you'll usually probably get 1 or 2 and get stuck on a doorway.

but if you have 4 grannies that actually know what they need to be playing on the map, there is not another comp in the game that makes this a reasonable challenge. 4 grannies fight construction for the 4 initial supply crates and then perma rush property after getting ult. stay close together, only have 1 or 2 grannies pop ult per fight, and you end the game in minutes every single time. granny is a reasonable and balanced neighbor if they just change her ult. everyone else in the game has a stinky doo doo butt ult and she just gets a free team wipe every 2 minutes where the only counter play is running through a door.

its also even harder to deal with because it requires coordination and specific counter strats to stop. which youre just not that likely to find in a lobby with 3 randoms on your team. and honestly why would you want to in a casual quick play match.

[StaticRD]

Originally posted by 90000ish:

"your just not very good at the game if your complaining about the entire team playing as only 1 character because playing as only 1 character is actually worse and puts you at a disadvantage than going against a diverse lineup because its far less strategic going up against 4 whatever than going up against a healer a tank and a kevin for example"


ummm, youre wrong. while being an ass mind you. most the nieghbors have a niche of playstyle. but frankly not a single one is that good at their niche. and i assume this is intended to play into the team nature of the game. however, granny excels at her job. like she pops a button becomes invincible and can wipe a team if she has good positioning. realistically though you'll usually probably get 1 or 2 and get stuck on a doorway.

but if you have 4 grannies that actually know what they need to be playing on the map, there is not another comp in the game that makes this a reasonable challenge. 4 grannies fight construction for the 4 initial supply crates and then perma rush property after getting ult. stay close together, only have 1 or 2 grannies pop ult per fight, and you end the game in minutes every single time. granny is a reasonable and balanced neighbor if they just change her ult. everyone else in the game has a stinky doo doo butt ult and she just gets a free team wipe every 2 minutes where the only counter play is running through a door.

its also even harder to deal with because it requires coordination and specific counter strats to stop. which youre just not that likely to find in a lobby with 3 randoms on your team. and honestly why would you want to in a casual quick play match.

ya your also bad at the game. You've clearly never played against a good grandma, grandpa kevin lineup and it shows. The 4th can be whatever i guess

[StaticRD]

Originally posted by 90000ish:

"your just not very good at the game if your complaining about the entire team playing as only 1 character because playing as only 1 character is actually worse and puts you at a disadvantage than going against a diverse lineup because its far less strategic going up against 4 whatever than going up against a healer a tank and a kevin for example"


ummm, youre wrong. while being an ass mind you. most the nieghbors have a niche of playstyle. but frankly not a single one is that good at their niche. and i assume this is intended to play into the team nature of the game. however, granny excels at her job. like she pops a button becomes invincible and can wipe a team if she has good positioning. realistically though you'll usually probably get 1 or 2 and get stuck on a doorway.

but if you have 4 grannies that actually know what they need to be playing on the map, there is not another comp in the game that makes this a reasonable challenge. 4 grannies fight construction for the 4 initial supply crates and then perma rush property after getting ult. stay close together, only have 1 or 2 grannies pop ult per fight, and you end the game in minutes every single time. granny is a reasonable and balanced neighbor if they just change her ult. everyone else in the game has a stinky doo doo butt ult and she just gets a free team wipe every 2 minutes where the only counter play is running through a door.

its also even harder to deal with because it requires coordination and specific counter strats to stop. which youre just not that likely to find in a lobby with 3 randoms on your team. and honestly why would you want to in a casual quick play match.

you are so bad at the game complaining about grandma ulty saying theres no counter except running through a door hahaha. There are literally so many different ways to avoid her ult its honestly laughable you would say such a thing. 1 you can literally counter her ult by using your speed boost properly. 2 you can counter her ult as grandma by just charge punching her. 3 you can counter her ult as kevin by using your ability to get away. 4 you can counter her ult as chad by vacuuming her. You can even counter her ult as kim a little by putting her oil thing. Its really not hard to counter her ult, i think your just bad at the game bro

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you have a joker pfp im not reading that paragraph lil bro

[StaticRD]

Originally posted by 90000ish:

you have a joker pfp im not reading that paragraph lil bro

you wrote like 4 paragraphs in 1 post and have a vac ban on your account (a recent one at that) haha. Nobody takes anything you say seriously bro. Probably got banned for cheating hence your complaining about this game being unbalanced. Cheaters 9/10 times suck at games

[128391012973161]

Originally posted by StaticRD:

Originally posted by 90000ish:

you have a joker pfp im not reading that paragraph lil bro

you wrote like 4 paragraphs in 1 post and have a vac ban on your account (a recent one at that) haha. Nobody takes anything you say seriously bro. Probably got banned for cheating hence your complaining about this game being unbalanced. Cheaters 9/10 times suck at games

bro i remember you from the beta. you are subhuman trash.

its not a vac ban, its a game ban, but i dont expect some dork with level 0 private acc to know the difference. the way you type and talk its obvious to everyone reading you are unintelligent and inflammatory. go spend time with your family you loser

[128391012973161]

i really dont wanna spend anytime on this because it should be obvious to anyone reading that this dude is bad at the game

Originally posted by StaticRD:

1 you can literally counter her ult by using your speed boost properly.

she has her speed boost in ult bro. she can shift to catch up to you AND she has increased base speed in ult. so what is your point here?

Originally posted by StaticRD:

2 you can counter her ult as grandma by just charge punching her.

ah yes a soft counter that only applies when playing the exact same character as what youre trying to counter. i dont even care enough to spend all the time i could explaining why this is a moronic rebuttal, but youre talking about something that doesnt work in 75% of situations in game, while also ignoring that the opposing grandma has access to the exact same tools. but the biggest indication that youre a moron is that the best counter when youre both playing grandma is literally just to ult last. it works 100% of the time and guarantees you trade or wipe.

Originally posted by StaticRD:

3 you can counter her ult as kevin by using your ability to get away.

first midly intelligent thing youve said so far and its still just stupid. gma 2 hits kevin and can body block. if youre outside sure you can get away a decent amount of the time. if youre inside this isnt an option. good grandmas will body block you after ult and using your mobilty indoors as kevin is a death sentence. but her ttk in ult is so low this is still hardly a solution.

Originally posted by StaticRD:

4 you can counter her ult as chad by vacuuming her. You can even counter her ult as kim a little by putting her oil thing.

the internet is so funny because i get insulted by the *dumbest* people lmao. chad does not counter ulted grandma. she kills him while shes being pulled. a reasonable play if youre saving the rest of your team but thats still a 1v0 trade. thats not a counter. also oil turret doesnt counter grandma. doesnt she like 3 shot it while being ulted? isnt she literally invincible with 750 health on top of her DR? what is the turret doing to her in this situation?

you still didnt manage to mention a single viable counter for a team of grandmas. its hilarious because when isolated, sure, but all your counters fall apart the second you remember were talking about a team of 4 grandmas playing together, rushing chimney, and spacing out ults.

bros poor, lvl 0 private steam account talking about cheating is hilarious tho. its a chat ban from a dead game dude. you have the exact account that gets insta reported in vac secured servers. but your alt ACTUALLY got banned and youre just too poor to rebuy the 5 games you had on there so now you join free to play playtests so you can forget how no one in real life can stand you

[StaticRD]

Originally posted by 90000ish:

i really dont wanna spend anytime on this because it should be obvious to anyone reading that this dude is bad at the game

Originally posted by StaticRD:

1 you can literally counter her ult by using your speed boost properly.

she has her speed boost in ult bro. she can shift to catch up to you AND she has increased base speed in ult. so what is your point here?

Originally posted by StaticRD:

2 you can counter her ult as grandma by just charge punching her.

ah yes a soft counter that only applies when playing the exact same character as what youre trying to counter. i dont even care enough to spend all the time i could explaining why this is a moronic rebuttal, but youre talking about something that doesnt work in 75% of situations in game, while also ignoring that the opposing grandma has access to the exact same tools. but the biggest indication that youre a moron is that the best counter when youre both playing grandma is literally just to ult last. it works 100% of the time and guarantees you trade or wipe.

Originally posted by StaticRD:

3 you can counter her ult as kevin by using your ability to get away.

first midly intelligent thing youve said so far and its still just stupid. gma 2 hits kevin and can body block. if youre outside sure you can get away a decent amount of the time. if youre inside this isnt an option. good grandmas will body block you after ult and using your mobilty indoors as kevin is a death sentence. but her ttk in ult is so low this is still hardly a solution.

Originally posted by StaticRD:

4 you can counter her ult as chad by vacuuming her. You can even counter her ult as kim a little by putting her oil thing.

the internet is so funny because i get insulted by the *dumbest* people lmao. chad does not counter ulted grandma. she kills him while shes being pulled. a reasonable play if youre saving the rest of your team but thats still a 1v0 trade. thats not a counter. also oil turret doesnt counter grandma. doesnt she like 3 shot it while being ulted? isnt she literally invincible with 750 health on top of her DR? what is the turret doing to her in this situation?

you still didnt manage to mention a single viable counter for a team of grandmas. its hilarious because when isolated, sure, but all your counters fall apart the second you remember were talking about a team of 4 grandmas playing together, rushing chimney, and spacing out ults.

bros poor, lvl 0 private steam account talking about cheating is hilarious tho. its a chat ban from a dead game dude. you have the exact account that gets insta reported in vac secured servers. but your alt ACTUALLY got banned and youre just too poor to rebuy the 5 games you had on there so now you join free to play playtests so you can forget how no one in real life can stand you

what on earth are you even talking about haha. This is my only steam account, this is my 1st play test ive joined in over 2 years and my steam account isnt level 0 lmao. You've clearly never putten your account private cuz your desperate for friends clearly. When your steam account is private it automatically presents itself as level 0 to people who go on your profile hence the term private. How you didn't know this with a steam account level of 51 is mind boggling haha. Calling me subhuman trash while you have a game ban on your account is hilariously ironic while than proceeding to send me a friend request of said person you just called subhuman. That's just straight mental illness right there lmao. Sounds like your just projecting cuz it seems like your the one who has nobody in there life. Seems like your the one who is the toxic one in games. You say you remember me from beta while proceeding to say im subhuman trash. Idk how you would think that considering i never communicated in all of the play test via game chat or mic besides occasionally telling someone to ready up so ya im just gonna block cuz your a weirdo clearly

[CHRow86]

Calm down, shes not op. There are enough Tools to counter her. She cant even fit through a door. Thats all u have to know to counter her. And we get new chars, so chill. If u played enough u figure out shes not op at all. Her strength is also her weakness.

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[MishaXG]

Originally posted by Scarphace:

Its really not balanced when the entire team can play as 1 character and dominate the map, that's a problem in itself along with all the other issues with the maps and mechanics that are more frustrating than fun, audio is ass too. I did start a thread about all the issues but the DEVS/MODERATORS deleted it as it was too much for them clearly to listen to basic criticism and my claim that if they don't make changes before launch and test them then the game will be DOA.

Yup wrote a really big post to give some feedbacks after spending 30 hours playing and testing during this beta. My post was removed. Dont really know what to think about this, why even do an open beta if they dont want feedbacks... it s just stupid.

Will give them the benefit of the doubt maybe they just delete thread they read cause obviously there was no real interest for people to read the entire thing... but still kind of weird.
Lets see when the Early Access starts what will be done exactly, hoping for a big detailed patch note.

(I guess i dream that anything will happen but well never give those guy a chance so lets see)

[lui]

Originally posted by StaticRD:

yes lets take advice from the anime profile person... This game is pretty balanced just get gud. Theres ways to counter kevin. As of now its very well thought out and balanced but lets wait to see what the other characters can do

“Just get gud” another brain rot iPad kid to put his two cents in