Mandragora: Whispers of the Witch Tree

Mandragora: Whispers of the Witch Tree

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Last boss really is a bad time.
Such a fumble. Great game ruined by the last boss.

Yes, the last boss is THAT ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad. My suggestions to the devs for the 2nd phase.
- Save point right before the boss.
- Get rid of the timer/lantern mechanic for the fight. (It’s just frustrating)
- Drop the health of the last boss by 30% if you keep the lantern mechanic.
- Nerf the bullet hell orbs damage
- And if you guys can’t implement any of these changes, a check point after the first phase.

I played and LOVED the game but then hit the last boss 2nd phase wall. No problem, just grit my teeth and get good. I used OBS and recorded my attempts to quickly learn the patterns. Had a great time doing that. But then I just saw that my level 90 crit rogue build just didn’t do enough damage during 2nd phase. Like, it was literally a crap shoot. If he does bullet hell, I’m just sitting there avoiding ♥♥♥♥ while the timer ticks down.
It’s just such a bad time. Then I realized the fight is just bursting down the 2nd phase with DPS. But I was already level 90. So that meant some insane grinding time if I wanted that DPS. So I dropped enemy health to 70% and instantly beat 2nd phase no problems.

Which tells that it’s just not a well tuned fight. I don’t know man, maybe it's me. This fight just rubbed me the wrong way.
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n3mes1s Apr 27 @ 11:45am 
Implementing timer mechanics in ANY game is a terrible decision. But implementing it on soul games is just disastrous. Im really hoping the devs change this last boss because if one thing i hate is timer mechanics and not having the "freedom" of taking your time. Anyways, i realized this game is one of the most difficult sould games i ever played. Also why the majority of the bosses have minions spawning everywhere???? after 6 bosses it gets dumb, and nonsense.
Morghy Apr 27 @ 11:54am 
1nd phase no problems but 2nd phase is terrible.
Alot of jumping around, alot of AoE and big damage from boss, you need to watch out for blue bar not to run out so you need to refill it with your lanter, deal damage to the boss if you get the chance and he got alot of HP.
Most exhausting fight in all the game for pure melee characters.
If you are more range or mix of range and melee you will have more easier time dealing with 2nd phase since you will not have to chase boss all over the place and you can just range dps him.
Last edited by Morghy; Apr 28 @ 9:13am
Primal_Zeeman  [developer] Apr 28 @ 5:42am 
Hi everyone, thank you for the detailed feedback. We are working on improvements here.
Destelle Apr 28 @ 7:00am 
2nd wasn't event hard i took it down with ease as a vindicator at level 80. Honestly just get better at the game
The 2nd phase of the last boss died in about 10 seconds. I am not sure why there are so many complaints. I doubt its a skill issue.. but maybe some of the builds have wasted points and need to be respeced.
Village Apr 28 @ 2:41pm 
Yeah it's definitely a build/gear issue. Will say it was somewhat annoying getting certain overlap of abilities in 2nd phase just because it felt very difficult to avoid damage so I could see how that would be very frustrating for someone without a lot of defense, resist and HP.
Yata Apr 28 @ 2:47pm 
Using a shield charge will stun the boss right away, making it easier to take him down.
n3mes1s Apr 28 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by Destelle:
2nd wasn't event hard i took it down with ease as a vindicator at level 80. Honestly just get better at the game

Why there need to be always someone that thinks he is a super pro and the rest are just idiots. The 2nd phase is a chore, plain and simple. You got luck? good for you. But the general opinion is tht it needs to be nerfed. A LOT. Specially get rid of the lantern mechanic, thats just idiotic to say the least in this kind of game.
Last edited by n3mes1s; Apr 28 @ 3:59pm
Originally posted by Epic Joe Smash:
The 2nd phase of the last boss died in about 10 seconds. I am not sure why there are so many complaints. I doubt its a skill issue.. but maybe some of the builds have wasted points and need to be respeced.

Oh, I'm more than ready to admit my build was wonky. I focused way too much on crit and not crit damage or any other real DPS. But that's kinda the thing with build crafting. You see if you can force it to work and kinda just have fun with a bad build.

And I think the 2nd phase is just too big of a DPS check. Again, I could have just had a really crap build. I was super salty in my first post and I'm not in my feelings like was yesterday lol. Devs, you made an amazing game. The art, the music, the vibes, the gameplay... all just amazing. I mean, the skill trees have different artwork in them! Just amazing works, guys.
Felipe D Apr 28 @ 6:07pm 
I played as spellbinder and don't even remember the second phase, killed in like 5-10sec but had an insane hard time early in the game in the spider boss, but after understanding the mechanics, it's so easy to kill, I guess it's the same for the final boss, the huge problem is the 2min walk to start the fight that is the worst thing I've seen in a game like this, this is beyond my compreension and agree with the people who point this as a feature to stall the game so people will take longer to finish. Just for the sake of increasing the amount of hours for the main story.
Try half astral / half druid build. The electric ball ability is absurd OP on end game with the right build and equips. Also you got a lot of sustain, shielding and defense.

Until endgame I was fire mage. Reseted to this build and no regrets. Next try I'm gonna use it till early game to see if it's reliable.
lol you are really that bad

The final boss isn’t that hard.
Originally posted by Primal_Zeeman:
Hi everyone, thank you for the detailed feedback. We are working on improvements here.
Final boss is fine

These people are just beyond terrible. Don’t use consumables. Have no build. Have no skill
Originally posted by n3mes1s:
Originally posted by Destelle:
2nd wasn't event hard i took it down with ease as a vindicator at level 80. Honestly just get better at the game

Why there need to be always someone that thinks he is a super pro and the rest are just idiots. The 2nd phase is a chore, plain and simple. You got luck? good for you. But the general opinion is tht it needs to be nerfed. A LOT. Specially get rid of the lantern mechanic, thats just idiotic to say the least in this kind of game.
Nah yall are just idiots and low iq

This boss was easy.
MIkike Apr 28 @ 11:08pm 
the boss is easy. But is a DPS check. You can play perfectly but if you don't have the numbers you lose to the timer. The timer mechanic would be even fine. But you restore it way to slowly you can at worst cast for a full second and get like 3 wich is terrible odd.
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