this game is amazing!

[cirescythe]

so far im 25 hours in and still lots of stuff to collect left. Graphics are great. Runs well. music is amazing. Controls are very good. I dont get why the whole discussion is full of people screechning non stop?!

[Alckant]

It's mainly due to the EULA thing. The game is great, but most people are giving negatives due not being able to play the game if they decline EULA agreement.

[Abu Hajaar]

pro tip, the average person is just not very emotionally stable, as can be seen in steam forums extensively

[cirescythe]

Originally posted by Alckant:

It's mainly due to the EULA thing. The game is great, but most people are giving negatives due not being able to play the game if they decline EULA agreement.

and thats why they chose to crucify THIS game? Its a bog standard EULA. Is it annoying? yes. Is it uncommon? no. Reads more tame than CoDs EULA for example. People consent to way worse every time they accept cookies on online pages.

[Sgt.JESUS]

Before the EULA thing there was the denuvo malware thing, and the devs came through and ditch the malware, now they have done the same with the EULA, it was a fair complain from the more patient people who read the damn thing, cudos to the people who read the damn thing too, they are the ones who keep those shi-tty practices in check, if they didnt some dev might ask for a kidney next time.

[flushfire]

There are mechanics that don't really add anything to the game but tedium. Some of the negative reviews mention them:

Lockpicks - if you didn't know to clear out the NPC supply early on, you're going to get to a point where you have to backtrack to locked chests.

Crafting - too much focus put into it. Needing to level the crafters is a layer of busywork that's only there to pad game time. It also adds narrative dissonance, these guys are supposedly experts (except the alchemist), yet they can't craft anything but the most basic stuff without your help.

And because there's a lot of focus on crafting, majority of loot are crafting materials or diagrams. In some other metroidvania, getting to a secret room with a unique item feels amazing. Here you find a recipe or crafting materials. Which you can't even use because the crafter needs levels. Ho-hum

The passive tree also has a lot of fluff. Many talents are underwhelming.

Just to make it clear I like the game. I don't think it's perfect though.

[Oh!Zulkazkah]

Yes, amazingly mediocre. If you quit the good graphics and okaish music, it looks like a student project.

[MakitaRotSprout]

Devs lied about NG+.

[ChubbiChibbai]

Originally posted by cirescythe:

I dont get why the whole discussion is full of people screechning non stop?!

Because its 2025 and its steam.

2025 is filled with a generation of kids that just complain about everything all the time.
Steam is filled with people that spend more time complaining about games than playing games.

Bunch of people who need to go touch grass making a mountain out of a molehill - something that has never bothered them in any other game they played but because they have been told to be upset about it their little sheep brains go into rage.

[cirescythe]

Originally posted by Sgt.JESUS:

Before the EULA thing there was the denuvo malware thing, and the devs came through and ditch the malware, now they have done the same with the EULA, it was a fair complain from the more patient people who read the damn thing, cudos to the people who read the damn thing too, they are the ones who keep those shi-tty practices in check, if they didnt some dev might ask for a kidney next time.

Denuvo is fine. It doesnt do anything to performance if its implementation isnt faulty. which was the case with two titles which lead to a continous check loop bogging the performance down. Stop listening to ragebait youtubers.

[cirescythe]

Originally posted by Oh!Zulkazkah:

Yes, amazingly mediocre. If you quit the good graphics and okaish music, it looks like a student project.

hyperbole much? the game plays great and goes toe to toe with the best metroidvanias out there. I recently replayed all the 2d metroid games and sotn. the latter i like less than mandragora due to the clunky controls.

[Blowfeld]

The game is solid. Amazing presentation, good gameplay, servicable story.
Some inconsistencies, small bugs and weird story pacing.

Most of the issues people had, came either from how the incompetent publisher handled this (and another parallel) release. Invasive EULA, claims of spyware, releasing game too early so people could not get the preorder stuff, pushing the game out before Easter weekend and therefore no time for devs to implement a proper NG+, which was supposed to be in the game at release (and then the publisher just changes some stuff on the steam page again to change narrative).

Long story short: It is a good game with room to grow.
If the devs get rid of the publisher they will be better off in the future und I expect less drama if they learn from current mistakes and quickly implement some hotfixes and qol changes.

[Averagedog]

I for one like the crafting system. I just wish there was more variety of weapons and spells/abilities. But we have been spoiled by Elden Ring no doubt.

[Gannibal Kujoe]

Originally posted by Sgt.JESUS:

Before the EULA thing there was the denuvo malware thing, and the devs came through and ditch the malware, now they have done the same with the EULA, it was a fair complain from the more patient people who read the damn thing, cudos to the people who read the damn thing too, they are the ones who keep those shi-tty practices in check, if they didnt some dev might ask for a kidney next time.

Exactly this. They catered to them one time, and the masses saw that as a way to constantly attack. People want to hate the game because of the price point. I saw it in another game just like this one.

Similarly the other game has beautiful art and an interesting world but the price is 39.99. The early access game isn't from a "AAA" game studio, whatever that means anymore, and the cretins went wild. Once a good amount of steam gamers see a game is over 20 bucks from a developer they deem should be subservient, like indies, there starts to be a process. A fomentation of thoughts by an overly indulged consumer starts to flood the forums, they all have a common thread. These brats think some how they have been wronged by the price and they are owed something.

Demands for X,Y,Z starts to emerge and all of them must be completed at once, any demand being ignored means the game is a scam or a bad game. I get the people that didn't like the EULA, but the ones saying the game is boring or bad, nah I just don't see their point of view, it looks like sour grapes to me.

I am not some industry ♥♥♥♥♥, I don't agree with inflating of game prices just because the industry says so. Gaming isn't movies or most other media. With that being said, many gamers especially on steam act entitled and elitist while in the same breath be fragile and broke.

They can't afford what they want nor do they know or understand the economy around producing the product they covet, but they demand to be catered to as if they are royals or stewards of the gaming industry. It's madness, Steam is the home of the bad Faith Actor feigning industry savior.