The Game Is Completely Rigged

[AquaPotato]

I really used to enjoy this game, it was something to pass time and losing really wasn't that big of a deal. That all changed about 5-6 months ago, or whenever the most recent pack update came out. Every time i play this game in arena mode i am constantly perfectly countered. I've debated literally recording gameplay to show just how ridiculous it is. For example, if i use a spawner team ill get a perfect counter for it, weather it be a gator or some sniper that somehow always kills the buffer and one of my better respawns, but because i have a full squad the respawn is ruined. Or if i have some type of super buffed unit that is being supported by other animals (obviously depending on the buffed animal you choose) there is somehow always a perfectly placed scorpion. Maybe i have one of those super lucky teams you get that no real live player would ever beat, you know the ones.. where literally every single one of your units are 35/35 plus on like round 6-7. NOPE, somehow i go against a team that completely wipes me out. Just to be clear this is not just a one time thing. This is literally every arena i get into, perfectly countered, every time. Lose by one and maybe even 2 hp if you're lucky, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I have gotten maybe 15-20 wins since whatever change was made to make this happen. to give a little more backstory, before this change i would win 7-8 arenas a day within a 1-2 hour session, and no i wasnt even using broken meta teams or anything. On top of that i can hop into a random public lobby and absolutely walk through the teams i encounter, so i know that my teams , at the very least, arnt terrible. Lastly i dont care to lose, its the point of the game your supposed to make a good team with the animals you get, but when literally every single team you make, even when you made a super cool team , and one that should win, its always perfectly countered, it just completely ruins the experience.

P.S - please tell me someone else has noticed this because it is extremely irritating LOL

[USAFA_Rocks]

The game became too popular and everyone builds meta now. They don't want to play, they just want to win.

[Jim the Gardener]

Originally posted by USAFA_Rocks:

The game became too popular and everyone builds meta now. They don't want to play, they just want to win.

The sad thing is, is there may be a meta, but this game is still 90% luck based and 10% skill.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Sounds like the problem is that you're building teams that can get countered. Think about how unlikely it really is to get 10 wins without whatever you're afraid of showing up sooner or later. Assume the worst that can happen will happen and have an answer to it. Try to make sure your team can beat summons, snipes, hippo, 50/50, anything and everything.

[Labtop 215]

I've noticed that I'm getting more wins recently, so perhaps the old pool of super OP teams has been cleared out finally.

[AquaPotato]

Originally posted by Mega Missingno.:

Sounds like the problem is that you're building teams that can get countered. Think about how unlikely it really is to get 10 wins without whatever you're afraid of showing up sooner or later. Assume the worst that can happen will happen and have an answer to it. Try to make sure your team can beat summons, snipes, hippo, 50/50, anything and everything.

I see what your saying , and i agree 100% the thing is it seems to happen every single game atleast 2-4 times. Plus your normal 1st round lose aswell as a round were you are just simply beat by a team being better and not super counter

[Costco Executive Member]

I've been noticing this as well, not that im getting beaten by meta teams, it's that no matter what team i try to build, meta or not, I get perfectly countered every time.

Feels like dream teams no longer even matter. I'll have a 50/50 Bison with a lemon and run into my first Scorpion of the day, and not see one again the whole time. If I load up on snipers I always get the Hurt Trigger teams, if I run the hurt triggers I get a team with giant stats, and if I run a team to counter stats the other team has the perfect sniper setup.

The only way to win this week is Level 3 into Bison. Last week it was level 3 Jellyfish.
Don't have a level 3 by tier 3? Sell the team and start again. Did you not get a bison when you merged your tier 3 shop? Sell the team and start again, a Bison on curve isn't fast enough, you'll get BTFO in 2 rounds by someone whose Bison is a level 3 50/50.

[Alexinawe]

100% agree. I've seen this happen again and again. and 2nding that round 1 is almost always a loss or a draw. The game is very broken as it is now.

[Moncho]

That makes no sense. What's in it for devs to make it so that you get wrecked all the time? Sounds like the best way to have everyone leave, and what do they gain in return? nothing

[Eulenspiegel_Narrenkaiser]

Originally posted by Alexinawe:

100% agree. I've seen this happen again and again. and 2nding that round 1 is almost always a loss or a draw. The game is very broken as it is now. :black:

If this is happening to you, then you either need to start taking different units, positioning your existing units better, or some combination of the two.

If on turn one you're constantly losing, that means some other teams are constantly winning when they play you. There are not even enough pets on turn one to blame rng, this is purely suboptimal play. Strategies on where to position ants, what to give the moth attack buff to, putting where to put 2/2, 3/2, and 2/3 relative to each other, where to place a cricket, they're all things that matter, and they may change if you play the weekly pack depending on what the pets in the pack are. Presence of moths, presence of pigs, presence of iguanas, etc., they will shape some of the placement strategy.

[aeden]

Originally posted by Mega Missingno.:

Sounds like the problem is that you're building teams that can get countered. Think about how unlikely it really is to get 10 wins without whatever you're afraid of showing up sooner or later. Assume the worst that can happen will happen and have an answer to it. Try to make sure your team can beat summons, snipes, hippo, 50/50, anything and everything.

bro just have the entire wiki in your brain so you know everything that could happen bro it's simple bro the game is good the game is good the game is good

[1.2M | Missingno.]

I'm not saying memorize every possible micro interaction to worry about, don't put words in my mouth. Moreso on a macro level, your team should have an answer to major archetypes: big units, summons, and snipes. Sometimes you should also be thinking about certain special threats in a pack like Hippo or Scorpion if they are potentially capable of being a hard counter, but it's only a few specific pets to think of in this way.

With time and experience you'll develop knowledge and understanding of what a team might be weak to and how to protect against it.

[crh_115]

Originally posted by aeden:

bro just have the entire wiki in your brain so you know everything that could happen bro it's simple bro the game is good the game is good the game is good

Or just like, be halfway decent at the game? You're acting like it's some super difficult 5d chess game, when it's just "don't put a 50/50 at the front if there's scorpions"-tier strategy. Not sure why this is so hard for you.

[Jim the Gardener]

Originally posted by crh_115:

Originally posted by aeden:

bro just have the entire wiki in your brain so you know everything that could happen bro it's simple bro the game is good the game is good the game is good

Or just like, be halfway decent at the game? You're acting like it's some super difficult 5d chess game, when it's just "don't put a 50/50 at the front if there's scorpions"-tier strategy. Not sure why this is so hard for you.

"getting guud" is the dumbest retort for an rng based game.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Do you think that skill just doesn't exist at all? That you can just blindly click things with no decision-making and achieve the same winrate as a more experienced player?

[Rhonox]

He thinks that any game with any amount of rng instantly becomes rng based, which is obviously wrong