(SPOILERS) How do i play NULL Mode again?

[Goldy333]

I like NULL Mode, but after you beat it, it gets replaced with Glitch Style. How do i modify my save file in order to play NULL Mode again?

[Goldy333]

I don't have to unachieve Glitches Galore, right?

[Treeshold]

Originally posted by Goldy333:

It didn't work, i think it's because i just get NULL achievement back when i open the game

The game seems to track achievements in the save file aswell, maybe it could be the reason?

[long gun]

im trying this and every time i press "begin story mode" on any style it gives me the achievement back and replaces the save file with one that has the flags all set to true idk what to do

[aximum]

yeah that happens

[Treeshold]

There is something in HighScoreManager, that brings null back. Gotta look through it aswell.

[Treeshold]

BTW, I found another 99 reference
classicScoreData = JsonUtility.FromJson<ClassicScoreData>(RijndaelEncryption.Decrypt(File.ReadAllText(path), "99"));

[Treeshold]

There are actually 4 null checks the game makes:
Save file check (this fifth and sixth flag in the save file)
HiScores file check (first and second flags)
Registry check (Whether Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Basically Games\Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered\DiagInfo_[random string] is 1 or 2)
Temp Folder check (EDIT: I have figured it out. It creates pseudo-random number generator using path to the save file folder path as a seed. Effectively, temp folder name is different for everyone, but is always same for one user)

EDIT: This will take some time for me to create utility that remediates all of these checks, be patient!

[|i.c.c.n|]

I am curious how this is for other OSes as well. since linux lacks an appdata folder, its save locations are within /.config/unity3d/Basically Games/ but I can't think of what the equivalent would be for the registry location on linux...

if. it even does the same trick.
_ I remember checking to see if it remembered my progress if I deleted the save file with steam cloud disabled, and at the very least I lost access to Null mode as well as the unlockable fun settings (though I have yet to beat the mode so I can't confirm if he stays missing)

[long gun]

Originally posted by |i.c.c.n|:

I am curious how this is for other OSes as well. since linux lacks an appdata folder, its save locations are within /.config/unity3d/Basically Games/ but I can't think of what the equivalent would be for the registry location on linux...

if. it even does the same trick.
_ I remember checking to see if it remembered my progress if I deleted the save file with steam cloud disabled, and at the very least I lost access to Null mode as well as the unlockable fun settings (though I have yet to beat the mode so I can't confirm if he stays missing)

you can check by getting all 7 notebooks and if baldi says "find a way out before a catch you" instead of "GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN" then null is still gone

[|i.c.c.n|]

Originally posted by long gun I LOVE BREEN!:

Originally posted by |i.c.c.n|:

[...](though I have yet to beat the mode so I can't confirm if he stays missing)

you can check by getting all 7 notebooks and if baldi says "find a way out before a catch you" instead of "GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN" then null is still gone

I have not gotten rid of him, as mentioned at the very end by me admitting I have yet to beat the mode

[long gun]

Originally posted by |i.c.c.n|:

Originally posted by long gun I LOVE BREEN!:

you can check by getting all 7 notebooks and if baldi says "find a way out before a catch you" instead of "GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN" then null is still gone

I have not gotten rid of him, as mentioned at the very end by me admitting I have yet to beat the mode

ohhhhh i didnt notice that my bad

[Shibainu25]

- I wonder if in theory you can backup a pre-Null save file, close out of Steam real quick, then play the Itch.io version with the save file from the Steam version.
- If people hid every trace of Steam's version of Baldi in another file location, then the Itch.io version shouldn't be able to do anything since there are no Steam Achievements to keep track of, since Steam is closed, and all the places it would normally check for flags don't have the Steam files anymore, only the pre-null save.
- In theory, you can now constantly delete or swap the Itch.io files now with the Steam ones, we just need to make sure to keep a backup of the essentials and to make sure all traces are removed where the game checks for flags. It's tedious, but it's a small price to pay before people decompile the game and figure out how to re-add Null somehow.
- Sidenote, I feel like most of this wouldn't have really happened if the Glitch said Null's voicelines in Baldi's voice or something instead, since it was mostly the lines that made the mode complete in my opinion, but now you deal with a silent antagonist when they shut the 4th exit on you instead of a desperate man in a monologue.

[Paturious]

Originally posted by Treeshold:

There are actually 4 null checks the game makes:
Save file check (this fifth and sixth flag in the save file)
HiScores file check (first and second flags)
Registry check (Whether Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Basically Games\Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered\DiagInfo_[random string] is 1 or 2)
Temp Folder check (EDIT: I have figured it out. It creates pseudo-random number generator using path to the save file folder path as a seed. Effectively, temp folder name is different for everyone, but is always same for one user)

EDIT: This will take some time for me to create utility that remediates all of these checks, be patient!

You know how to wipe a save file?

[Paperbag]

I really hope that eventually dataminers and such will figure out a way to replay this via modifying the code, but no joke I just create a new user on my PC cuz it's my only option. Very impractical but doable.

[Treeshold]

Originally posted by Paperbag:

I really hope that eventually dataminers and such will figure out a way to replay this via modifying the code, but no joke I just create a new user on my PC cuz it's my only option. Very impractical but doable.

I am literally thinking about modifying the code to deliberately not check for it. If you want, I can create a "mod" that does just that