Cave animal puzzle does not work

[lisamwil777]

I have raised the stones in the correct order and the water barrier is still there. Am I missing something.

[Hellish Fiend]

Given that the correct order is different on every playthrough, we'll need a bit more information to help you out. Can you provide us some specifics?

[Rayz]

Originally posted by lisamwil777:

I have raised the stones in the correct order and the water barrier is still there. Am I missing something.

keep trying, it does work. You're missing something

[MarcusArelius]

The puzzle does not make sense. Why is there an 8 and a 10 associated to an animal when there are only 6 animal tomb stones to select?

[Hellish Fiend]

Originally posted by MarcusArelius:

The puzzle does not make sense. Why is there an 8 and a 10 associated to an animal when there are only 6 animal tomb stones to select?

There's not an 8 and a 10 associated to an animal. How exactly are you calculating the numbers?

[MarcusArelius]

Originally posted by Hellish Fiend:

Originally posted by MarcusArelius:

The puzzle does not make sense. Why is there an 8 and a 10 associated to an animal when there are only 6 animal tomb stones to select?

There's not an 8 and a 10 associated to an animal. How exactly are you calculating the numbers?

From the paper in the classroom. From top to bottom the numbers are 8,1,10,5,3,6

[Hellish Fiend]

Originally posted by MarcusArelius:

From the paper in the classroom. From top to bottom the numbers are 8,1,10,5,3,6

Those numbers are meant to help you figure out how to read the number system. You get the ordering of the animal stones from the totems. =)

[lisamwil777]

I went by the totems and the animal symbols. 1 was the triangle -heart shaped riven symbol, 2 was the tree , 3 was the funny creature on the ceiling of the smoke blowing totem cave, 4 was the frog and 5 was the whark. Did I get one of them wrong or the order mixed up. The numbers are from the number of the totems and the symbols are the associated pictures from the moeity lens connected to that particular totem. Am I off somewhere?

[Henry]

There are 6 in this remake.
And the “heart” is the vertically swimming fish. I don’t think there is a “tree” symbol, I presume you meant the animal FROM the tree ;)

[lisamwil777]

Thanks for all of your help. I revisited the totems and the numbers were different than the walkthrough. I hadn't realized they changed with each rendering of the game. I was finally successful.

[Hellish Fiend]

Originally posted by lisamwil777:

Thanks for all of your help. I revisited the totems and the numbers were different than the walkthrough. I hadn't realized they changed with each rendering of the game. I was finally successful.

Yay!

[lir7]

Hi, I'm stuck on this one too. Never mind the order I can't even see the symbols. The only one I can see clearly through the lens is on jungle island when you follow the path down by the dagger. Is that how you're supposed to get them in this version? The last one I remember being from the eye balls in random places.

[Marck]

Originally posted by lir7:

Hi, I'm stuck on this one too. Never mind the order I can't even see the symbols. The only one I can see clearly through the lens is on jungle island when you follow the path down by the dagger. Is that how you're supposed to get them in this version? The last one I remember being from the eye balls in random places.

Yes, you need to align your view through the lens such that you can see the symbol correctly. Other than in the original Riven with its prerendered still frames with forced perspectives from which you could see the outline of an animal symbol, you can move more or less freely in the remake. The Moiety lens is the tool for finding the correct position from which you can actually see the symbols. There is a symbol to discover near each of the totems.

[lir7]

Originally posted by Marck:

Yes, you need to align your view through the lens such that you can see the symbol correctly. Other than in the original Riven with its prerendered still frames with forced perspectives from which you could see the outline of an animal symbol, you can move more or less freely in the remake. The Moiety lens is the tool for finding the correct position from which you can actually see the symbols. There is a symbol to discover near each of the totems.

I've figured that bit out but there is only one I can see clearly. eg the one when you first get off the cable car to jungle island near the pool of water. I want to move further into the pool and go behind the totem but can't move there. Moving further up the stairs doesn't help either. The stalactites don't line up wherever I stand.
The one by the tree out on the promontory just shows flowers in the trees.
I can see something high up on the wall round the back of the sunner's beach but can't see detail and can't capture it when moving on the cable car as it moves too quick.
I can't find any images on prison island.]
I can see something in most spots but not a detailed image to choose a tombstone.

[Hellish Fiend]

Originally posted by lir7:

I've figured that bit out but there is only one I can see clearly. eg the one when you first get off the cable car to jungle island near the pool of water. I want to move further into the pool and go behind the totem but can't move there. Moving further up the stairs doesn't help either. The stalactites don't line up wherever I stand.

Ah, yeah, that's a bit of environmental puzzling, something that Cyan is pretty great at. It's one of those things that will make you smack your forehead when you figure it out. Keep at it. If you're still stuck after a while, come back and read the spoiler below. But I recommend trying to get it yourself.

hint: Youre right that the reason it's not lining up is because you CANT get the correct angle to make it line up. There's literally nowhere you can stand to make it line up. So what other options do you have?

solution: Use the diverter to stop the water's surface from being disturbed by the fountain, and then look down into the reflection of the water's surface to see the correct alignment.

The other ones you listed are all environmental puzzles too, and require you to either think outside the box or keep looking until you find a different vantage point.

[lir7]

Originally posted by Hellish Fiend:

will make you smack your forehead

I had to look at your solution, I was so fed up of that one! I'll look at the others another day. Thank you