Riven
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:00pm
I went over to Myst...
Yeah, was quite the wrong way to play it, but then again Riven was my favourite one.


However, I was astonished to see an option like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1255560/discussions/0/3041607080051594509/

Immediately turned it on. Just wish something like that will also come for this one. :/
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Hellish Fiend Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:08pm 
Unfortunately, I doubt we will, because all of the times when it would be handy are ultimately not the ones we want. All of the "flat" videos are just linking book panels where we dont care that it's a 3d rendering. Most of the scenes with live actors, they are right there in front of you, making it impossible to play the original videos in their place.
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:15pm 
Well, in such specific scenes it could be an option to lock the players movement and view.

Like in that one scene were one of Gehn's lackeys runs away from the player. The controls and the view is shortly locked.
So for such videos, it could be easy to force the player watching from a specific angle and making it impossible to change the view, position as long as the scene is not over. :wellok:

That would be a short reduction of freedom I could perfectly live with, when I get upscaled vids instead of the rendered chars. :wellok:
Hellish Fiend Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
The design philosophy of the entire game is centered around requiring the minimum of differences between the regular version and the VR version, though. For example, how we're inexplicably standing up for our boat ride to Tay. And even something like you describe wouldnt work for VR because of the need for depth perception.
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:42pm 
They could exclude this option for VR.

It's still a niche...
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Steam users with VR Headsets
1.75%
-0.24%

It dropped? :awkward:



Anyways, I honestly would prefer an upscaled original over this one then.
But even that wasn't done yet. :(

IMHO Rand Miller will always be Atrus, Sheila Goold Catherine and the late John Keston Ghen.

Not some rendered NPCs. :P
Hellish Fiend Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
Oh, I agree completely. As much as I look forward to playing the game in VR some day (when I can afford a headset,) I am a bit disappointed by the VR necessities affecting the flat screen version of the game.

Still, if it was the ONLY way we could get both a remake and a VR version, then I'm glad for the compromise.
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
Don't get me wrong.
I really enjoyed the game, but overall I still would play a properly remastered original and click myself through pictures to move instead of actually moving in a rendered 3D-world.

At least for Riven I would do that.

Yet, as of its current state, I rather play the original with some gloom, since it would be so much better having higher resolutions available. :(
So I often end up starting it, but even cannot get further than the temple island, as the visuals are still nice (can't do much wrong with good pictures), but the resolution is more than aged. :wellok:


Anyways... Gonna continue on Myst now. :D
Hellish Fiend Jul 5, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Just Chill:
So I often end up starting it, but even cannot get further than the temple island, as the visuals are still nice (can't do much wrong with good pictures), but the resolution is more than aged. :wellok:


Best way to enjoy the original, if your setup permits, is to output it to your TV (assuming you have one for movies and stuff, like a home theater setup) instead of your PC screen.

Sitting at a distance, viewing it on a TV, the low resolution is not as noticeable, and the original still holds up VERY well. I both replayed the original and played the remake in this way, one right after the other. Having done this, I can honestly say Cyan deserves that 90%+ review score on Steam. They knocked it out of the park, in terms of the "feel" of the visuals and the game as a whole, despite some unfortunate design decisions related to VR.
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Oh, I've given them a thumbs up too for sure.
The feeling is definitely there. :)
Henry Jul 5, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
Maybe soon there’ll be an AI upscaler to just play the old version with crisper graphics ;)
Just Chill Jul 5, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
I hope so. :crossedfingers::otrfingerscrossed::zomshaka:

@Profile pic
Terence Stamp was the most handsome General Zod IMHO. ;)
ShnitzelKiller Jul 5, 2024 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Hellish Fiend:
The design philosophy of the entire game is centered around requiring the minimum of differences between the regular version and the VR version, though. For example, how we're inexplicably standing up for our boat ride to Tay. And even something like you describe wouldnt work for VR because of the need for depth perception.
A bit of a shame all of these compromises were made when the VR implementation is borderline unplayable. I played in flatscreen after all the visual glitches in VR put me off it.
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Date Posted: Jul 5, 2024 @ 3:00pm
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