Still no DRS fix

[Wish']

Thx frontier

[saberhagen83]

What needs fixing so badly?

[Goul]

The DRS could be made 30% less effektive and it would still be to powerfull. People are asking for it since day 1.

[Andy]

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous at the moment.
Hoping it makes the next patch.

[vvrcic1]

even with defend active, i cannot stop the drs pass power. honestly I have gave up now.

[saberhagen83]

I don't know. At least on most tracks I've played on since 1.8 patch there isn't as many constant overtakes as there used to be. Defending in a DRS zone feels much more realistic now compared to before. If the chasing car isn't quite close enough you can keep them behind you. But if they are close enough, they will pass. But this is true to real life as well, it's not easy to defend against a driver that has DRS, especially on some tracks it's damn near impossible.

I find the DRS thing much more enjoyable now compared to when the game was out, back then you kept switching positions in the train cause the chasing car had so much speed to overtake every time. Pretty much if they were within 1s they would blast by. Not the case anymore, not even if they are like 0.7 or so behind, you can still defend against them now.

[Wish']

Originally posted by saberhagen83:

I don't know. At least on most tracks I've played on since 1.8 patch there isn't as many constant overtakes as there used to be. Defending in a DRS zone feels much more realistic now compared to before. If the chasing car isn't quite close enough you can keep them behind you. But if they are close enough, they will pass. But this is true to real life as well, it's not easy to defend against a driver that has DRS, especially on some tracks it's damn near impossible.

I find the DRS thing much more enjoyable now compared to when the game was out, back then you kept switching positions in the train cause the chasing car had so much speed to overtake every time. Pretty much if they were within 1s they would blast by. Not the case anymore, not even if they are like 0.7 or so behind, you can still defend against them now.

Well if you think that having a drs train from russel p7 to latifi p20 is realistic then there's nothing I can do for you

[EngineR]

Honestly I have mixed feeling with that.

Of course DRS is overpowered compared to reality, but from my point of view it really gives an interesting tactical dimension to the game.

I'm very honest about that. It not realistic. But I like playing with the DRS effect and try to gain an advantage out of it. I enjoy the micro-management involved and the issues that it causes, even if sometimes I also complain about stupidly long DRS trains.

Also since update 1.8, you cannot anymore only rely on DRS, you must take into consideration tyre strategy. And there is a balance between the two.

It is not yet realistic. But this is just a game and in some cases I can accept not to have realistic behaviors for everything when I can have fun out of the gameplay as it is.

[Andy]

Originally posted by resnaux:

Honestly I have mixed feeling with that.

Of course DRS is overpowered compared to reality, but from my point of view it really gives an interesting tactical dimension to the game.

I'm very honest about that. It not realistic. But I like playing with the DRS effect and try to gain an advantage out of it.

It's the same every time. If you're not the quickest car, you try and avoid going really short for the first stint and aim to cling on to DRS as long as possible.
As, the goal is to be there as long as possible. You want to go long first stint. Mabee deploy early to stay there.
But, means you never want to stop for fresh tires all the time you're clinging on to faster cars DRS. As, you can put fresh softs on and be slower than old hards that are part of a DRS train.
So, you inevitably end up going long and one stopping.

If you come out of the pits on softs and you're not part of a DRS train. But, the car in front is. You won't catch them even if they're on hards.

If you go on softs and clear a 1.5 second gap to the car behind. The car one place further back might go past them on DRS and be 0.6 behind you from being 2 or more seconds further back....

Honestly, there's so many little annoyances with gameplay that are made worse by OP DRS. When you get some of the worse tracks like Bahrain it's 'all' about DRS strategy and luck. More so than any tire management.

For me, it's the last hurdle the game needs to pass to get proper F1 strategy in race day.
IF the devs don't fix it, hopefully we'll get a mod.

Given the trouble some of the cars have over taking each other. I wonder if they can't slow it down as the cars just won't pass. But, it's way too overpowered, bordering on comical at some tracks.

[saberhagen83]

Originally posted by Wish':

Originally posted by saberhagen83:

I don't know. At least on most tracks I've played on since 1.8 patch there isn't as many constant overtakes as there used to be. Defending in a DRS zone feels much more realistic now compared to before. If the chasing car isn't quite close enough you can keep them behind you. But if they are close enough, they will pass. But this is true to real life as well, it's not easy to defend against a driver that has DRS, especially on some tracks it's damn near impossible.

I find the DRS thing much more enjoyable now compared to when the game was out, back then you kept switching positions in the train cause the chasing car had so much speed to overtake every time. Pretty much if they were within 1s they would blast by. Not the case anymore, not even if they are like 0.7 or so behind, you can still defend against them now.

Well if you think that having a drs train from russel p7 to latifi p20 is realistic then there's nothing I can do for you

No idea. Never seen it happen, even before 1.8 patch. The back pack is never anywhere near the middle of the pack train(s). What you are saying is that the DRS is so powerful even Latifi can keep up with the middle of the pack? Just not happening for me. There is always a few trains forming, not one massive. And a few alone in the middle of nowhere between or behind these packs.

Playing as Alpine we usually can't keep up with the top, top teams and teams like Alpha Tauri etc can't keep up with us. Usually Mercedes and Alfa Romeo (Bottas really ;) ) are the ones we are usually stuck in a train with. Everyone else can't keep up for long, DRS or not. So no, DRS isn't all mighty powerful anymore. And like I said, even with a faster car like Ferrari or RB, it's not a automatic overtake anymore, even if they are in your DRS. Might need a little tweak sure, but it ain't completely broken.

[udtojan95]

Latifi got overlapped by Verstappen. But because Latifi had DRS he could follow Verstappen. So the track had 3 DRS zone's. So the whole race Latifi could drive Verstappen's Pace until he pitted.

[Ollof]

Considering that back markers can follow the leaders when lapped I'd say it's broken. It's not so bad on older circuits with only one DRS zone, the ones that have 3 you're having a hard time breaking DRS. Midfield cars on worn hards shouldn't be keeping up with faster teams on fresh tyres.

[vvrcic1]

I thought there was a rule that prevented that but maybe i was wrong