Contract Negotiations are just bad

[felixx_be]

So after my second season I can totally say that the contract system in this game is completely dump.
It has exactly the same problems like the game they copied (Motorsport Manager) ...

When I negotiate a contract with my driver 3 months before seasons end and I set the length to 1 season I do NOT want to make a new contract pnly for the next 3 months!! Why should I? Why is it so hard to either display the end date of the new contract or just let me specify when the contract should start?? This is just so frustrating?

Also why isn't it possible to negotiate a contract with a new driver that starts at the end of the season mid season? This is common practice in F1 so why is this not in the game? This is so so needed!

I am really sorry for the developers that they get so much hate but this is unacceptable! How can a game in this state be released? It copies Motorsport Managers, adds good graphics (which is nice) BUT removes great features and does not fix ANY problems Motorsport manager had!

I am frustrated.

[PoopyMcPoopChute]

yeah ive been looking around the internet for like 30 minutes trying to find out how to hire someone for the NEXT season but it seems you just cant until the that season is over just like MM. pretty dumb

[dair919]

How is this a copy of Motorsport Manager? Please explain

[Myrvold]

Originally posted by dair919:

How is this a copy of Motorsport Manager? Please explain

Motorsport Manager also had this feature where you never signed any driver/staff for the future. It was instant-signing or nothing.

While back in the 90's when there was a lot of F1 Manager games, this weren't a thing. Even Grand Prix Manager from 96 (1995 season) had contracts based on number of races, and new contracts started at the end of the old ones.

With some exceptions. Some times (different kind of triggers), you got the prompt asking you if you want to sign the driver right away or wait until end of contract (signing right away meant paying off your current driver),

Even EA's F1 Manager mistake had this features, that you signed drivers and staff for the next season, not the current.

[LIBER-TEA!!!!!]

Originally posted by dair919:

How is this a copy of Motorsport Manager? Please explain

Car setup
Regulation votes
Driver Contracts

To name a few

[Ngoc]

Agreed they need a big improvement as that is practically the most important part of the manager all the $$$ system need a hug patch we can't be showered with money every week

As that is the real managerial part of it

[Ablomis]

I don’t understand who anyone in their own mind would say “Yeah thats a good design choice “

[felixx_be]

Originally posted by Ablomis:

I don’t understand who anyone in their own mind would say “Yeah thats a good design choice “

This

[dair919]

Originally posted by gaz_savage:

Originally posted by dair919:

How is this a copy of Motorsport Manager? Please explain

Car setup
Regulation votes
Driver Contracts

To name a few

F1M uses the same setup system as MM

MM also includes regulation votes - can vote to have circuits added or removed from the calendar

The contract systems are similar between both games, however MM is better as it does a better job of simulating negotiations, as they take place over the course of days and not instantly.

In MM you can interact with your drivers, interactions can lead to positive or negative driver traits popping up.

In MM you can also interact with the press.... I mean there is so much more to do in MM than F1M... I really don't know why Frontier didn't look at MM and copy them.... The blueprint for a top management Sim has been out for yearrrrs!

[RaelM]

Originally posted by 420DabScope:

yeah ive been looking around the internet for like 30 minutes trying to find out how to hire someone for the NEXT season but it seems you just cant until the that season is over just like MM. pretty dumb

You sign them for 2 seasons not 1, then they'll have a 1 season contract for next season. It's not ideal but it's a workaround. It will of course sign them for the current season and replace a driver, that's why I wait till after Abu Dhabi.

[Der Wolf]

best thing is they dont tell you what they want i offerd a 3 season contract and got a down from that so does this mean 4-5 or 1-2 seasons thats just stupid

[CHIEFSHOTTY]

Devils advocate;

Lets say you could negotiate contracts ahead of time. At the start of the season in the game you can't hire any new staff because they are contracted to other teams. So you could be stuck with whatever team. Also if other teams or doing the same. Could you pre contract someone 2-5 seasons out? Would you have to wait for until they are within a year of their contract end date to send a proposal?

With that being said, if you wanted to hire anyone straight up, you have the current system where you can just break contract immediately. Because you know some people are going to get impatient waiting for the season to switch to higher updated staff

If the AI can also negotiate with staff ahead of time, could there instances of the AI 'stealing' your staff? Would there need to have some kinda of 'contract wars' and get out-bid by another team.
( Piastri Mclaren/Alpine contract fiasco.)

Maybe your star driver (Fernando) just gives you the finger and states they are leaving you and won't negotiate terms. Suddenly you won't have your workhourse and force to hire a poor free agent to tie you over.

I'm pretty sure suddenly there would be a forum full of complaints about staff leaving them because they got poached by another team.

Realistic- sure Hardcore may like it....maybe
This is a game. so just have your instant gratification and why wait a whole season or end of contracts to get the people you want. You can just hire people you need straight up.

[Dakai]

I feel so lucky that I got the refund. I really am gutted.

[MO938]

There should be a silly season during the mid season break, which allows you to sign drivers for the following year. Let's hope this gets implemented for the next game.